Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Groucho]

We need people to take responsibility and take it seriously, you can see from this thread that some won't and it undoes all the hard work of people that do.

It's obviously accelerating again and we need to not wait as we did last time. It shouldn't happen as quickly as it did where in a period of 2 weeks in March it was already too late, as we haven't got quarter of a million at Cheltenham, massive crowds at stadiums. Predicting that tipping point and making decisions will be key. The issue with that approach will be the naysayers looking at the death rates thinking why are we going into lockdown when it doesn't appear that bad...

If and when we have another national lockdown (and perhaps across many countries) that they close the borders and that remains the case until a vaccine can be found or a treatment that will reduce the pressure for the hospitals/greatly reduce the chance of fatalities. We could also keep in place local travelling restrictions too. It's a crappy thing to even think about where your liberties to move around are curtailed, but I'd rather have that where local life perhaps can continue as normal than these boom or bust situations where as soon as a lockdown is over people act like complete idiots and start the clock to another eventual full blown lockdown.

Ill be going on a free rights march this time deffo if they have one cant wait for me and some like minded people to stomp around mask free

What I mean is, there must be another solution other than “RIGHT THAT’S IT NOBODY DO ANYTHING”.

Also, is it feasible to wrap people up in cotton wool forever? I’m not sure it is.

I work in the NHS btw, I’m not a conspiracy theorist - I just feel this could be managed WAY better.

 

[orchard]

Ill be going on a free rights march this time deffo if they have one cant wait for me and some like minded people to stomp around mask free

If you feel so strongly about it, why don't you organise it and get out there ffs

 

[Deckard2049]

Ill be going on a free rights march this time deffo if they have one cant wait for me and some like minded people to stomp around mask free

Don’t you remember? It was proven over the summer that protests were COVID safe zones. Provided of course you were protesting for the morally correct reasons. COVID is quite an intelligent virus in that it can discern the reasons for thousands of people taking part in a mass gathering and deciding whether or not they deserve infecting.

 

[Harryflashman]

Re discussions the other day when I suggested I didn’t think police had the power of entry under legislation for the rule of 6 . Ex copper on radio 5 (I missed his name ) saying he and colleagues still serving thinks if there isn’t breach of the peace or violence that they won’t be able to ‘force their way in’ (I’m paraphrasing) .

The legislation is rushed and it’s clearly leaving huge gaps .

edit - retired senior police officer and member of sage

 

[The binman chronicles]

What I mean is, there must be another solution other than “RIGHT THAT’S IT NOBODY DO ANYTHING”.

Also, is it feasible to wrap people up in cotton wool forever? I’m not sure it is.

I work in the NHS btw, I’m not a conspiracy theorist - I just feel this could be managed WAY better.

But that was the crux of my point, the options are:

• Full lockdown.
• Continue with local lockdowns.
• Clear guidance rules, like only meet up with 6 people, wear masks etc. etc.
• Say to hell with it and let the good people like yourself and other NHS workers deal with the fallout however bad.

After lockdown the clear guidance rules should be enough to help contain/control but you saw yourself, BLM protests, anti covid protests, everyone heading to crowded beaches. The people are their own worst enemy and unless we are going to go the way of China/NK and start beating these people for doing it, It takes us back to local and then full lockdowns if we want to avoid the see what happens choice, which itself may ultimately end up with a full lockdown anyhow so you may have needlessly killed off x amount of thousands for the sake of a few weeks.

 

[YoboCopter]

What a time to be alive anyway

 

[cronullasharks]

What I mean is, there must be another solution other than “RIGHT THAT’S IT NOBODY DO ANYTHING”.

Also, is it feasible to wrap people up in cotton wool forever? I’m not sure it is.

I work in the NHS btw, I’m not a conspiracy theorist - I just feel this could be managed WAY better.

Thinking the same way too, how long can there be lockdowns followed by an easing back into normality then lockdown again, rinse and repeat.

My uneducated opinion is we (worldwide) should have done a longer lockdown months back and really tried to eliminate this thing instead of 90% (guess??) getting on top of things than let it slowly fester back.

Are we still going to be living in limbo in 5-10 years time like this?

 

[Harryflashman]

What a time to be alive anyway

i mean it’s better than the alternative

 

[tsubaki]

 

[Deleted member 48881]

because of the mask fetish, people forgot the actual, most important measure, social distancing. yesterday I was out walking, three girls all wearing masks and gloves, were walking basically next to me, loads of space was available but they didn't mind me being there. I then myself walked away. it is so dumb that I don't even know where to start.

Masks are essential, but basically when it comes to indoor and crowded places, social distancing is by far the most effective one.

 

[YoboCopter]

This thread even though serious and people having differnet views it is pretty decent isnt it

theres the odd arqument like but i think everyones singing from same hymm sheet by and large just worrying times what the winter could bring isnt it

 

[cronullasharks]

Anyone else feel like a criminal if you're in a shop and cough these days lol

 

[ToffeeTim]

Re discussions the other day when I suggested I didn’t think police had the power of entry under legislation for the rule of 6 . Ex copper on radio 5 (I missed his name ) saying he and colleagues still serving thinks if there isn’t breach of the peace or violence that they won’t be able to ‘force their way in’ (I’m paraphrasing) .

The legislation is rushed and it’s clearly leaving huge gaps .

edit - retired senior police officer and member of sage

I think the tweet above shows how messy things have got trying to legislate for all these daft incoherent rules. If simple things like typing up rules cannot be done accurately, then it doesn't fill you with much confidence. The police are in a no win situation and I wouldn't like to have to interpret some of the legislation.

I'm just not comfortable with all these rules dictating who people are allowed into their own home. As others have said, the only option put forward by our politicians cannot be a cycle of just going in and out of lockdown and a perpetual state of fear.

 

[Walken]

Anyone else feel like a criminal if you're in a shop and cough these days lol

Felt more like a member of a different race for wearing a mask in the offy by brunswick Station yesterday to be honest

 

[The binman chronicles]

Early pub closures are one of those weird rules that sort of do nothing. I get they don't want people hammered as then the distancing drops but what's stopping people going out earlier getting hammered and mixing? Surely it just needs bar staff to say when they've had enough and a presence outside so they don't congregate. Shorter hours will just lead to more people being in the same place at the same time to me.