Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[TowerToffee]

How did people survive winter nights before gyms were invented.

Why do you think our parents /grandparents had such large families , more than one way to exercise yano lol

 

[Kenshin]

This is what annoys me, why do people have a problem with washing there hands? Its pathetic.

I can certaily see a lockdown coming, for me the big problem is the pubs, i bet they we're rammed yesterday for the Liverpool game, like they always are, scruffs everywhere.

You only have to walk through Liverpool one and see the amount of people not wearing masks, or that knob who was arrested on the train a week or so back, despite what some people want to believe a lot of people in Liverpool dont care about others, the community spirit isnt what we think it is, its everyone just looking out for themselves for many

Is that the one that summed Facebook up?

Police charged him with spitting / coughing at other people

Facebook reaction based on the footage was to blame the police for making it up just to charge him with not wearing a mask....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

...none of which negates my point.

The fatality rate is the key metric.

If you take the last week day as a guide, the UK had 6 deaths, or 1 per 10 million people (roughly), whereas Czech had 2 deaths, or 1 per 5 million people (roughly). In terms of cases generally, they had a case for every 6,900 people, versus the UK's case for every 16,900 people.

So if fatality is the key metric, they're doing worse than the butchering banana republic you harangue each day, and doing worse by quite a margin. Sadly after talking to the mother in law yesterday, the population seem to be (bizarrely) much more laissez faire now than they were in March, and the government is determined to keep the economy open at whatever cost.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

and they can place curfews on the likes of pubs / restaurants etc

Keeps the youngsters from partying !

What I don't really understand with the various restrictions is that it inevitably restricts the movement of those that don't have the virus, yet data suggests that just 20% of those who are required to self-isolate are actually doing so. Why don't they devote more energy to 'police' those we know have the virus rather than those that to the best of our knowledge, do not? It's those with it that will spread it, surely?

 

[orchard]

If you take the last week day as a guide, the UK had 6 deaths, or 1 per 10 million people (roughly), whereas Czech had 2 deaths, or 1 per 5 million people (roughly). In terms of cases generally, they had a case for every 6,900 people, versus the UK's case for every 16,900 people.

So if fatality is the key metric, they're doing worse than the butchering banana republic you harangue each day, and doing worse by quite a margin. Sadly after talking to the mother in law yesterday, the population seem to be (bizarrely) much more laissez faire now than they were in March, and the government is determined to keep the economy open at whatever cost.

6 deaths under 28 days no? On one of the days last week it was 90, maybe even excluding one of the cut-offs.

 

[Nymzee]

What I don't really understand with the various restrictions is that it inevitably restricts the movement of those that don't have the virus, yet data suggests that just 20% of those who are required to self-isolate are actually doing so. Why don't they devote more energy to 'police' those we know have the virus rather than those that to the best of our knowledge, do not? It's those with it that will spread it, surely?

How do we know who doesn’t though unless they’ve been tested?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

6 deaths under 28 days no? On one of the days last week it was 90, maybe even excluding one of the cut-offs.

Dunno. I just picked the stats published on the corona stats website thing for the last weekday. 14, 8 and 32 were the figures for the days before that. The average for the 5 work days last week was 12. If Czech had our population, their average would have been 24.

 

[YoboCopter]

If you take the last week day as a guide, the UK had 6 deaths, or 1 per 10 million people (roughly), whereas Czech had 2 deaths, or 1 per 5 million people (roughly). In terms of cases generally, they had a case for every 6,900 people, versus the UK's case for every 16,900 people.

So if fatality is the key metric, they're doing worse than the butchering banana republic you harangue each day, and doing worse by quite a margin. Sadly after talking to the mother in law yesterday, the population seem to be (bizarrely) much more laissez faire now than they were in March, and the government is determined to keep the economy open at whatever cost.

How it should be
economy rules

 

[YoboCopter]

There are currently 863 patients with COVID-19 in hospitals in England and Wales.

To put that in context, 450 people died yesterday in the UK from cancer alone.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

How do we know who doesn’t though unless they’ve been tested?

The restrictions to our activities aren't about testing people though, are they? They're to try and limit the spread of the virus. It just seems odd that the government aren't doing anything effective to police those we know are supposed to be self-isolating while actively restricting the movement of those that we believe (until evidence shows otherwise) are clean.

 

[orly]

[Cancer figures]

Our cancer figures are a national disgrace though tbh

 

[YoboCopter]

Our cancer figures are a national disgrace though tbh

Yer i agree mate, horrible numbers

 

[orchard]

Dunno. I just picked the stats published on the corona stats website thing for the last weekday. 14, 8 and 32 were the figures for the days before that.

May have been Thursday, on one of the rare occasions that they're published together. Still, can't see it going up much if a positive test is required.

 

[Charro]

Cancer isn’t contagious and people can have it for years before it kills them.

It’s a proper dumb comparison that people continually make.

 

[Nymzee]

The restrictions to our activities aren't about testing people though, are they? They're to try and limit the spread of the virus. It just seems odd that the government aren't doing anything effective to police those we know are supposed to be self-isolating while actively restricting the movement of those that we believe (until evidence shows otherwise) are clean.

No, won't argue the policing of those asked to self-isolate/quarantine is great but still, we can't also then assume everyone else is okay to roam free.