Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LinekersLegs]

Good news

 

[Cool_Blue]

Concerning these quarantine rules when you return from many overseas countries, the one that seems bizarre to me is you cannot leave the house to exercise. How the hell could you infect someone whilst going for a walk around the block in the fresh air?

 

[Kenshin]

Concerning these quarantine rules when you return from many overseas countries, the one that seems bizarre to me is you cannot leave the house to exercise. How the hell could you infect someone whilst going for a walk around the block in the fresh air?

Would it not make more sense to , you know , test someone when they return and determine if they have it or not there and then?

 

[Cool_Blue]

What if far more of the population have immunity to it than statistics tell us?

This is an interesting thought. Do we have any idea whether large amounts of the population could, by some miracle, simply be immune to it?

 

[Cool_Blue]

Would it not make more sense to , you know , test someone when they return and determine if they have it or not there and then?

I think the problem with that is it can take up to 14 days before you display symptoms.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Orthodox Jews who refuse to wear mask outside got arrested in Israel.

Bottom one looks like a Boy George convention

Is that really the fashion for young male Orthadox Jews?

 

[Kenshin]

This is an interesting thought. Do we have any idea whether large amounts of the population could, by some miracle, simply be immune to it?

Suppose that is in the detail so to speak. Why we have never put in a plan to test everyone is beyond me. It would he so much easier to manage if you knew where all the cases were. It doesn't mean everyone will have it but if you had thousands of cases in a particular city then it's easier to control than a handful a week.

The immunity I must confess I have no idea on. I think with any virus that number would be relatively small .

I think the problem with that is it can take up to 14 days before you display symptoms.

I guess so.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I listened to her at the start of the year when she sat with Boris Johnson and told me masks are bad - arenas/large events aren't an issue and pose significantly less risk than smaller environments;



2m35s - was this ignorance, or is that just what narrative suited them at the time?



That's the bit that gets me mate.

They either don't know basics like the impact on crowd size/masks or there's a narrative.

The scientists have got a lot wrong, especially in the early stages of the pandemic. But in fairness they are learning more about this on the go, so it's not surprising that they've changed direction a few times. As have the WHO whose advice wouldn't have been tempered by a lack of face masks in the UK.

I think the important thing now is that they do appear to be learning from mistakes and are making a much better fist of coming out of lockdown than they did going into it. Nor are they afraid to make perceived U turns when they realised they may have got it wrong first time around. Surely that's better than continuing to do the wrong thing.

But you also need to factor in that UK scientists have also come up with at least a couple of treatments that have proved highly effective in treating the illness, are leading the worldwide race to provide an effective vaccine, and have designed breathing apparatus that can be manufactured and supplied much cheaper and in larger numbers than the traditional ventilators, all of which will help the world beat this thing and keep the number of deaths down.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Other than that, there seems to be no other game in town short of a viable vaccine. We are at least 12 months from that point, if not longer.

Hopefully more like 6 months. But it would certainly take a lot longer to roll this out around the world.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Ventilators could be adapted to help two COVID-19 patients at once | Imperial News | Imperial College London

New research has shown how ventilators could be adapted to help two patients simultaneously in the event of a shortage.

www.imperial.ac.uk

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Grandma and Grandad gets it first... What lovely society we are becoming!

NHS care homes told to put ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ orders on all residents at Covid peak

Survey suggests one in ten managers and nurses were told to change DNRs without discussion with patients, relatives or fellow staff

www.theweek.co.uk

 

[abelard]

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/08/adam-tooze-how-will-the-covid-19-pandemic-change-world-history.html

 

[roydo]

Grandma and Grandad gets it first... What lovely society we are becoming!

NHS care homes told to put ‘Do Not Resuscitate’ orders on all residents at Covid peak

Survey suggests one in ten managers and nurses were told to change DNRs without discussion with patients, relatives or fellow staff

www.theweek.co.uk

It may seem insensitive, but an elderly patient who has survived one bout of violent CPR, is unlikely to survive a second. The medics know.

A fit and young, relatively, Mrs R survived 4. We gave the DNR instruction if she had a 5th. Me, her Mum and Sister agreed it would be cruel.

Cooking her tea later.

 

[Catfish Blues]

Comes down to not trusting the public to accept the priority of allocation

To be fair, back at the start, if you'd seen the empty shelves where toilet roll normally sat, you'd have thought the general public were all "me, me, me and bollocks to everyone else".

As it turned out, the vast majority of the general public, barring a few outliers on the Wirral, have behaved really sensibly, far more sensibly than many of those pulling the strings in and around government.

 

[roydo]

To be fair, back at the start, if you'd seen the empty shelves where toilet roll normal sat, you'd have thought the general public were all "me, me, me and bollocks to everyone else".

As it turned out, the vast majority of the general public, barring a few outliers on the Wirral, have behaved really sensibly, far more sensibly than many of those pulling the strings in and around government.

Yep. The British public, have, by and large, done ok.