Ah when you say 'here' I thought you meant in the Czech Republic.
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Ah when you say 'here' I thought you meant in the Czech Republic.
whiteshadow
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The data from Sweden does actually back up that stance.
Unlike the UK, Sweden has not used lockdowns throughout the whole pandemic. In theory the virus should be spreading just as fast as it was earlier on during the pandemic.
If the virus had become weaker you'd expect a constant, increasing level of cases with less deaths. The cases have dropped off, which shows it's not the virus becoming weaker, it's just not spreading as fast.
The obvious explanaition would be a community approaching herd immunity.
There is research that backs this up as they're finding that some people that have never had COVID19 are producing T cells that are capable of fighting off the virus. The T cells they generate only recognise one side of the virus but it's enough to confer immunity. These T cells they have in response they obtained through other coronaviruses.
If you look at the UK, the one place you'd expect to flare up the worst after reopening the economy is London, due to the population density and it's travel system. I'm sure the social distancing is making a difference but in theory we should be nowhere near herd immunity and London should be the hardest area to keep the number of infections down it, yet it isn't. Doesn't that suggest that maybe London is already close to herd immunity and the virus ripped through most of the population who were susceptible to it early in the pandemic?
New York is another place where the virus seems to have run out of steam. Could all be explained by social distancing measures but wouldn't you expect some upturn in cases when the lockdown was lifted? Just like London, New York should be one of the hardest places to stop the spread of the virus.
Either social distancing makes a huge difference or a certain percentage of the population have inherent immunity to COVID from past coronavirus imo.
Some doctors are starting to consider the idea seriously. The data from Sweden and data from other countries suggests that some unknown factor is affecting the spread of the virus, which is resulting in a drop off in cases in most places after a heavy first spike.
Both youtube links are by real doctors, not conspiracy theorists.
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Catfish Blues
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Or, and more likely, a bit of both. Antibody levels in London appear to be dropping off. I've no idea how long T-Cell immunity might last, but if both types of immunity tend to wane, then, if there is some level of natural herd immunity in populations, we could, theoretically at least, get into a situation where, as immunity wanes, 10 to 20% of that population are susceptible to reinfection at any one time. So, going forward, we could get relatively small outbreaks regularly popping up.
To be honest, we may never know. If a vaccine is deployed to enough people, and that vaccine generates both an antibody and a T-cell response, then we'll end up in much the same place as from natural herd immunity, except reinfections would mostly be replaced by top up vaccinations.
arminisgod
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just read that Hong Kong Flu in the late 60's killed 80'000 people in the UK. Nearly double of COVID.
Oh, more lockdown measures in Pendle today but only in the areas with high pakistani populations
Oh, more lockdown measures in Pendle today but only in the areas with high pakistani populations
Luckily 80 years later with the Internet, easier access to televisions, furlough schemes, better medical advice/cover etc. we could combat COVID to stop it being worse than H3N2
One big difference is physicians have a better understanding of the disease (it's not just respiratory), what to expect, and a few medications that seem to help.
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BlueStevie35
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Hospital figures - 5 is the announced total, one down on yesterday and 3 down on last Friday. All 5 were in English hospitals, the same total as yesterday and 3 down on last week with all happening in the past 10 days
For all those folks still believing they are safe because they are young and fit
And before the comments about America football players' physique, he's a QB, not a lineman.
And before the comments about America football players' physique, he's a QB, not a lineman.
this morning they were talking about infection maybe giving you around 2 years immunity, nobody has a clue though it seems .
Catfish Blues
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Unless / until people who've previously had symptoms and tested positive do so again, nobody will either.
The number of London based blood donors with antibodies has dropped from about 15% to about 10% over the course of a few months, but that'll be, at least, partly due to the demographics of donors changing over that time.
Basically, early doors, older donors weren't donating, and now they are, and they're probably less likely to have been infected, so them coming back into the donor pool would automatically drop the percentage. Given you can only donate three or four times a year, they won't have much, if any, info on who might now be testing negative for antibodies who previously tested positive.
At an individual level, because of false positive and false negative tests, you can't read too much into a change in antibody test result, but at group level, those errors will even out. So, assuming someone's looking for that sort of change within the blood donor population, within three to six months, we should have a decent indication as to whether or not antibodies are hanging around for at least six months.
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When I contracted Covid back in January, my first recourse was the bottle, and it didn't affect me any more than a normal chest infection would do. Now, with the death figures dropping rapidly since the pubs reopened, I believe that we can safely say that the route to effective treatment is through good ol' fashioned alcohol..... 
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Mad the way this bellend thinks only places with muslim populations are going into lockdown.
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