Billy Dean
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Comparing it to cancer is fine though
Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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zzr45
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There were people on here claiming it would be 100,000 to a million.
The fact we are seemingly over the worst of this doesn’t sit well with some people for some reason. Nobody with any iota of sense can claim the government have done a good job, but we seem to have got through it. It’s time to start getting back to some version of normality without the histrionics
Barnfred 55
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Are you insinuating that GOT treats it's white British members better than it's black British members?
NilSatisOptimum
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Does sit well because of the death toll, the PPE, the herd immunity, the track and trace the lock down, the quarantining, never have I seen a collective of idiots running the UK.
Barnfred 55
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Twitter is full of people pushing an agenda and many tweets can easily be disproved by a quick google search as you have just done.
Too many on here, on both sides to be fair, are a bit too free posting links when they haven't checked it's validity or source.
True, however there is still the very real possibility of a second in spike if things aren't managed well by the government and if the population do not comply.
The concern is that this government's failings aren't over, so I would say people are right to still have concerns regards to the above; we can't become complacent.
We've already had 40,000 official deaths across the country but when you factor in excess deaths against the five-year rolling average it's probably > 60,000.
I don't want to see it creeping towards that 100,000 figure.
Barnfred 55
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Now if that happened it would be the two finger salute to the British public from Johnson
Barnfred 55
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You need the gym if you go to both Nando's and MacDonalds in the same day
zzr45
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I get the concerns about the government, but are their failings going to be lessened by us all sitting at home and doing nothing? If the last three months have taught us anything, that's arguably a big fat no.
I get that there's a need for the public to change their mindset and things like wearing masks on public transport can only be a good thing in my opinion and personally I'd have that become standard operating procedure during cold and flu season, don't particularly care if the screens between me and the checkout staff and proper one way systems around shops stay in place forever.
The media have to sort themselves out as well, far too often have we heard contradictory advice about precautions. Friend made a decent point the other day that Academics are continually being asked for their opinion, but you can guarantee that if one academic has one opinion, another will hold something directly contrary - so in the example of mask wearing it seems to have been a good idea, but media outlets have found the academic who disagrees and did a test with 4 students that found weak evidence and had them share their view - leaving the public completely unsure.
I know I've gone off completely at a tangent there, do get the wisdom but do wonder how much will actually change with us all back in lockdown.
While I do agree to an extent, for me it's less to do with lowering their failings and stemming the grossly inappropriate number of deaths we've received.
Sadly, the two are mutuall linked. I don't think many are suggesting we all continue to sit at home, but it's not unrealistic to desire a cautious, staggered approach.
For example, if we have a spike of numbers in a particular area (Tameside are saying they're r0 rate is r>1) do you have the confidence in the government acting?
Unfortunately, I can't say that I can and that's where my concerns are now focused. The fact that our testing and tracing isn't anywhere ready exacerbates this.
Many of the lock-down guidance has been rolled back in one fair sweep and we need to be confident that this will be accurately monitored; again, I'm concerned.
Basically, I'm saying that I have no issues with people going back to work etc, but I'd be far more confident if we could trust the government to manage it.
zzr45
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Yeah I get that and share much the same concern, especially the failings of t&t which feels like it’s the missing piece of the jigsaw in many ways. Dammed if we do, dammed if we don’t sadly.
My Grandaughter was due back in school (Reception), Monday coming, Daughter had e-mail yesterday tea time, not to bother as R rate has risen above 1. Scary times indeed.
arminisgod
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More that a terror attack.. yes.
But i wasn't really comparing it to cancer anyway, just making the point that hundreds die from it every day due to man made effects (smoking, alcohol, pollution etc) but life doesn't shut down and we don't demand all of them are banned.
Without wanting to labour the point, that's where it boils back to the management of this crisis. Initially, I was quite supportive of the government's actions.
With hindsight, it was folly to do so because they've muddled their way through from blunder to blunder over the past four or five weeks.
Can I ask where that is?
davek
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No.
Unlock = massive spike in cases / deaths; go back to lockdown = thousands of lives saved. That's the choice.
Of course, that's not going to be acknowledged by this government and their backers in the business world, and it wont impress the lumpen proletariat who care more about getting their hair cuts and stuffing a pastie into their stupid 'kin gobs than looking to save lives.
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