Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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My boss has decided we all have to go to the office at least one day a week. Just because.

In our factory they are working in masks and gloves and at least 1.5m apart at all times... so now we have to go to the office in the same rigmarole because he's doing it and has decided it's safe.

The company's official line is that all desk based staff are working at home until October 1st on a 4 day week but he knows better.

Hes also communicated that he expects us to be available and active in the day we're unemployed.

God damn I need a new job.
Does he work a 20 hour day? Or be in the office way before anyone else? And still be there after all the staff have left?
What an absolute weapon he sounds! I agree with you...time to look elsewhere.
 
Some similarities to my own scenario. There's no real need for it other than our management simply not liking modern working arrangements.

These people have worked in the auto industry their whole lives and its a culture that values presence, long hours and rigid adherence to process above all else. They're also completely disconnected from their employees lives. Witness them thinking we'd all be grateful for them taking a 20% paycut at the start of this whilst forcing the rest of us to take a 100% paycut.

I'm going to cruise through until they expect us back full time then sack it. I'm going to try and find a job where I'm doing something more worthwhile than padding our customers profit margins.
 
Does he work a 20 hour day? Or be in the office way before anyone else? And still be there after all the staff have left?
What an absolute weapon he sounds! I agree with you...time to look elsewhere.


You're not far off... I was unemployed on Friday and yesterday was a bank holiday. I have 13 e-mails from him in that period. Including one at 2am on sunday. He's going to the office full time and normally works 0630-1900.
 
I'd be surprised if the journalists and writers within the Daily Mail believe what they're actually writing. They have an audience and they play on their whims etc.

There's a lot of moral issues that arise from this, where they ignore their social responsibilities, but I suspect they don't give two hoots.

Exactly, look at the amount of S*n hacks who attend Oxbridge. They're not thick, just have a talent of distilling an agenda into small words.
 
My boss has decided we all have to go to the office at least one day a week. Just because.

In our factory they are working in masks and gloves and at least 1.5m apart at all times... so now we have to go to the office in the same rigmarole because he's doing it and has decided it's safe.

The company's official line is that all desk based staff are working at home until October 1st on a 4 day week but he knows better.

Hes also communicated that he expects us to be available and active in the day we're unemployed.

God damn I need a new job.
Is your boss the owner of the business or is he some middle grade manager in a much larger business?
 
The government actions have declared that the UK is now at Level 2 with elements of Level 1. The Coronavirus epidemic in the UK is now officially over officially over even before their new R number organisation was set up. As soon as Harries said on Sunday, 'just xxx have been hospitalisaed' and Hancock yesterday only mentioning 111 deaths (when 556 were added to the official toll, mostly elderly in care homes) are the actions of people were are trying to hoodwink the great British public that 'It's over'.

Interesting that the government are again not publicising their own BAME report is.


"For a second time, the Tories have delayed the release of a report into the reasons that COVID-19 kills a far higher proportion of people of colour – and they have admitted that a desire to avoid public anger is the reason.

A Number 10 source confessed that the government is:

incredibly worried that this could be in too close proximity to the #BlackLivesMatter protests.

Suppression of information, and distortion of it, is all the hallmarks of censorship. Not surprising really, and is the hallmark during Johnson's premiership, relying on Cummings bullying and lies, and backed up, and surrounded by a gangs of miscreants with the Britannia Unchained (unhinged more like) amongst others.
 
Director in a global business. We are, of course, owned by shareholders.
I was trying to establish where your boss is in food chain and it sounds like he's pretty much at the top. Not much you can do about it other than put a complaint in about health and safety if you feel the office isn't CV compliant. Will probably end your career there but if you're serious about leaving I guarantee you'll be stirring the pot before you leave.
 
My boss has decided we all have to go to the office at least one day a week. Just because.

In our factory they are working in masks and gloves and at least 1.5m apart at all times... so now we have to go to the office in the same rigmarole because he's doing it and has decided it's safe.

The company's official line is that all desk based staff are working at home until October 1st on a 4 day week but he knows better.

Hes also communicated that he expects us to be available and active in the day we're unemployed.

God damn I need a new job.

I’d send an anonymous email to the HSE reporting the company for unsafe practices.
 
I’d send an anonymous email to the HSE reporting the company for unsafe practices.


The HR have (and it pains me to say it) been really good throughout this. The head of HR for my site is a genuinely good person. Their instructions have been clear, they've erred on the side of caution with who they bring back and when and they've given us everything we need to work effectively at home.

Sadly, senior management are (as is usually the case) a bunch of sociopaths who only see things in terms of cost and profit and my department is the one in focus at the moment to save money so, politically, he has to be "seen" to be pulling out all the stops.

I've already told him I'm not going in unless he can tell me why I need to be there and I'm not taking public transport to get there. His response was "You should buy a car, it's unprofessional not to own a car"
 
People have a choice for who they work for. Most share that view or are willing to write stories based on what the people who buy that rag want to read.

The lad over the road from me is a footy journo for a broadsheet ( @Connor ) knows who he is.

He`s a top lad and in the past he was one of the lead sports writers for a very unsavoury paper, for which he took a lot of abuse.

He once told me that nearly all journalists don`t have the luxury of picking and choosing employers and quite simply have to go where the work is.
 
Rt Hon Dear Secretary of State,

Thank you for your letter of 27 May, in which you described some welcome, though limited, additions to the official data on COVID-19 tests, including a proposed note on methods (not yet published at the time of writing). I am afraid though that the figures are still far from complete and comprehensible.

Statistics on testing perhaps serve two main purposes.

The first is to help us understand the epidemic, alongside the ONS survey, showing us how many people are infected, or not, and their relevant characteristics.

The second purpose is to help manage the test programme, to ensure there are enough tests, that they are carried out or sent where they are needed and that they are being used as effectively as possible. The data should tell the public how effectively the testing programme is being managed.

The way the data are analysed and presented currently gives them limited value for the first purpose. The aim seems to be to show the largest possible number of tests, even at the expense of understanding. It is also hard to believe the statistics work to support the testing programme itself. The statistics and analysis serve neither purpose well.

To mention just a few issues in relation to the data as currently presented:

the headline total of tests adds together tests carried out with tests posted out. This distinction is too often elided during the presentation at the daily press conference, where the relevant figure may misleadingly be described simply as the number of tests carried out. There are no data on how many of the tests posted out are in fact then successfully completed. The slides used in the daily press conference do not show the date when the tests were carried out;
the notes to the daily slides rightly say that some people may be tested more than once and it has been widely reported that swabs carried out simultaneously on a single patient are counted as multiple tests. But it is not clear from the published data how often that is the case. Figures for the overall number of people being tested have previously been published but are not available in the published time series;
the top summary presents the number of positive results from diagnostic tests (pillars 1 and 2) alongside the total number of tests across all pillars. This presentation gives an artificially low impression of the proportion of tests returning a positive diagnosis;
more generally the testing figures are presented in a way that is difficult to understand. Many of the key numbers make little sense without recourse to the technical notes which are themselves sometimes hard to follow. This includes the supporting spreadsheets, which, while welcome, make it difficult to extract even basic trends.
With regard to new data that are not currently made available:

test results should include for example key types of employment (e.g. medical staff, care staff), age, sex and location (by geography and place, such as care homes). How many people in what circumstances are infected? Where do they live?
for Test and Trace it is important that a statement of the key metrics to measure its success should be developed systematically, and published, to avoid the situation that has arisen in relation to the testing programme. The statistics will need to be capable of being related to the wider testing data and readily understood by the public, through for example population adjusted maps of hotspots.
I warmly welcome of course your support for the Code of Practice for Statistics. But the testing statistics still fall well short of its expectations. It is not surprising that given their inadequacy data on testing are so widely criticised and often mistrusted.

I also welcome the Department’s willingness to work with colleagues from the Office for Statistics Regulation (OSR) and I know they have been in touch to discuss how the data and their presentation could be improved and gaps addressed. OSR will be happy to help further in any way they can.

It would be useful to develop a published timetable for the changes that need to be made and for the development of the metrics for the vital new programme of Test and Trace.

I do understand the pressures that those concerned have faced and still face. But I am sure you would agree that good evidence, trusted by the public, is essential to success in containing the virus.

Yours sincerely,

Sir David Norgrove
 
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