Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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Exactly. You could say that you’re going to the beach as you’re worried about your child’s mental health. Every single person should be able to appeal the fines they have been given.
Well with all due respect Pete, unless they shut schools in safety grounds it will make all the difference. Parents are understandably take the decision to keep.their kids at home if there are questions on safety. Cummings has essentially opened that door now.
Rather than making it up as they go along, why dont they try and work with teachers for once, to make sure basic safety procedures are followed?
All this to save Cummings’ skin!? How much cash would that have been?
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Tories hate them, pubs are kryptonite to the divide and conquer agenda that they rely on.
As someone who finds Johnson a repulsive individual, could not have written this Cummings debacle any better. However the backdrop was inevitable one way or other, under Tory Government the most vulnerable will kop it.
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Someone who may or may not be charge of a police force in an area of outstanding natural beauty today addressed a meeting by saying "well our 'please don't come here, it's not the right time' message has been completely obliterated".
Clever touch by the writers
So basically there are ALOT of police officers that didn’t understand the rules either.
peteblue
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What are pubs like on your planet.....
Hard to definitely tell:
A first FPN will be for £60 (reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days). A second FPN would be £120 and no reduction for early payment would apply. Third and subsequent breaches of the Regulations resulting in a FPN render a person liable to pay double the previous FPN up to a maximum of £960.
@peteblue might be a good maths problem for the granddaughter this one...
Tories hate the pub? Really?
Government to 'look at' fines given to families in lockdown after vicar puts Hancock on spot lollollol
Fines given to people who have broken lockdown rules to access childcare will be "looked at" by the government, the health secretary has said (yeah course they will, not lol)
At the government's daily coronavirus press briefing, a vicar called Martin Poole from Brighton asked Matt Hancock: "Will the government review all penalty fines imposed on families travelling for childcare purposes during lockdown?"
The question comes after days of criticism of Dominic Cummings, a senior Number 10 adviser, who travelled to Durham from London to seek childcare for his four-year-old child in case him and his wife became "incapacitated" by COVID-19.
Mr Hancock replied: "We do understand the impact and the need for making sure that children get adequate childcare. That is one of the significant concerns that we've had all the way through this.
"So I think especially coming from a man of the cloth, that is perfectly reasonable to take away that question. I'll have to talk to my treasury colleagues before I can answer it in full and we'll look at it and if we can get your details I'll make sure we can write to you with a full answer and make an announcement from this podium."
Speaking after the conference to Sky News, Reverend Poole said his question was rooted in equality.
He said: "I think everything about this weekend and the kind of storm that's going around… is about unfairness.
"I think people feel a very strong sense that its not right that certain people can behave in a way that the rest of us are not allowed to
"I'm very interested, as a vicar, in unfairness. There are all sorts of different inequalities in our society at the moment and this is just one of them that needs to be sorted out and particularly for any families that have travelled, probably worried they were doing the wrong thing, and were stopped and charged a penalty
Reverend Poole added: "I don't think any of us realised there was an element of discretion in these rules. It seemed to me very clear that it was about staying at home. And many millions of us have done that… so for me its about fairness."
He also said that he "would like to see government ministers and advisers treated in the same way as everybody else," and that "there's a sense with government that they sometimes operate on a different set of principles to the rest of us".
Nazir Afzal, the former chief prosecutor for north-west England, weighs in:
He said that an inordinate amount of time has been spent enforcing the restrictions” and any potential review of fines “all over one man” would be a “scandalous waste of time and money”.
He said: “There is no process by which a review could take place, there would have to be a retrospective change in the law which would enable these penalty fines to be reviewed.”
He added the Cummings row risked damaging public confidence and public health, saying: “We rely on people to comply, and why should they?”
Mr Afzal said if he was a lawyer defending an alleged lockdown-breacher he would currently be printing out tweets from Government figures defending Cummings and “I would be using that in my defence for every single case brought before the court”.
Fines given to people who have broken lockdown rules to access childcare will be "looked at" by the government, the health secretary has said (yeah course they will, not lol)
At the government's daily coronavirus press briefing, a vicar called Martin Poole from Brighton asked Matt Hancock: "Will the government review all penalty fines imposed on families travelling for childcare purposes during lockdown?"
The question comes after days of criticism of Dominic Cummings, a senior Number 10 adviser, who travelled to Durham from London to seek childcare for his four-year-old child in case him and his wife became "incapacitated" by COVID-19.
Mr Hancock replied: "We do understand the impact and the need for making sure that children get adequate childcare. That is one of the significant concerns that we've had all the way through this.
"So I think especially coming from a man of the cloth, that is perfectly reasonable to take away that question. I'll have to talk to my treasury colleagues before I can answer it in full and we'll look at it and if we can get your details I'll make sure we can write to you with a full answer and make an announcement from this podium."
Speaking after the conference to Sky News, Reverend Poole said his question was rooted in equality.
He said: "I think everything about this weekend and the kind of storm that's going around… is about unfairness.
"I think people feel a very strong sense that its not right that certain people can behave in a way that the rest of us are not allowed to
"I'm very interested, as a vicar, in unfairness. There are all sorts of different inequalities in our society at the moment and this is just one of them that needs to be sorted out and particularly for any families that have travelled, probably worried they were doing the wrong thing, and were stopped and charged a penalty
Reverend Poole added: "I don't think any of us realised there was an element of discretion in these rules. It seemed to me very clear that it was about staying at home. And many millions of us have done that… so for me its about fairness."
He also said that he "would like to see government ministers and advisers treated in the same way as everybody else," and that "there's a sense with government that they sometimes operate on a different set of principles to the rest of us".
Nazir Afzal, the former chief prosecutor for north-west England, weighs in:
He said that an inordinate amount of time has been spent enforcing the restrictions” and any potential review of fines “all over one man” would be a “scandalous waste of time and money”.
He said: “There is no process by which a review could take place, there would have to be a retrospective change in the law which would enable these penalty fines to be reviewed.”
He added the Cummings row risked damaging public confidence and public health, saying: “We rely on people to comply, and why should they?”
Mr Afzal said if he was a lawyer defending an alleged lockdown-breacher he would currently be printing out tweets from Government figures defending Cummings and “I would be using that in my defence for every single case brought before the court”.
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It's made a mockery of it really as it allows people to drive a coach and horses through the regulations should they wish.
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Indeed. If testing whether you were really blind or not is a valid excuse to drive to a beauty spot, it doesn't leave many avenues people can't explore.
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