Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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JEBUS_LIVES said:
No.
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The reason I ask is that it does make you think differently. Several on here have said they do have kids, and in similar situations, but still obeyed the lockdown, as indeed have I (my granddaughter lives with me btw). But it changes your viewpoint depending on circumstances and availability of support. Both adults were ill. Was it stupid to go to his parents, especially as he would have known that it would get out, absolutely. Now ask what his parents would have said had he not gone home, in my opinion they would have been worried sick and probably driven down to see him and his wife. Had it been the opposite way around and it was his parents that were ill, his parents would have ordered him to stay away, no argument. It’s the way it works, you obey your parents and they don’t have to obey you.......
 
PhilM said:
When a large number of cabinet ministers come out in defence of an indefensible action (going against all advice) by an 'advisor', you know where the power lies.

If they had any sense, they'd throw Cummings under the bus and rightly so; instead, they're throwing themselves under the bus.
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What's the odds Jeremy Hunt is already stirring things up behind the scenes. The rank and file of the Tory MPs can't be happy with what they're seeing and how duplicitous and two faced this whole episode appears to the general public.

I bet more than a few of them would be more than happy to see the back of Cummings anyway.
 
....as often happens this is about partisan politics rather than right and wrong.

If Cummings was a Labour official, Tory sympathises would be labelling his actions a disgrace. They are not doing so because he’s a Conservative.

Over 30,000 people have died and the public has largely obeyed Government advice to try and keep a lid on the pandemic. What Cummings did was wrong. Take party loyalty out of the situation because it’s indefensible.
 
Eggs said:
....as often happens this is about partisan politics rather than right and wrong.

If Cummings was a Labour official, Tory sympathises would be labelling his actions a disgrace. They are not doing so because he’s a Conservative.

Over 30,000 people have died and the public has largely obeyed Government advice to try and keep a lid on the pandemic. What Cummings did was wrong. Take party loyalty out of the situation because it’s indefensible.
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well done eggs
 
Barnfred 55 said:
What's the odds Jeremy Hunt is already stirring things up behind the scenes. The rank and file of the Tory MPs can't be happy with what they're seeing and how duplicitous and two faced this whole episode appears to the general public.

I bet more than a few of them would be more than happy to see the back of Cummings anyway.
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Probably they would....but maybe they won’t .....
 
If Cummings was worried about child care for his son, how come he left his ill wife and travelled to Durham alone?

"A spokesman for Durham Constabulary said: "On Tuesday, March 31, our officers were made aware of reports that an individual had travelled from London to Durham and was present at an address in the city.

"Officers made contact with the owners of that address who confirmed that the individual in question was present and was self-isolating in part of the house.

"In line with national policing guidance, officers explained to the family the guidelines around self-isolation and reiterated the appropriate advice around essential travel."

Several days later on April 5, a neighbour of Mr Cummings' parents claims they spotted him outside the property while passing for their daily exercise".
 
Tin-Tin said:
Cant wait for people to refuse to send their kids back to school and when threatened, claim they were just protecting their family.
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If it’s not safe then they shouldn’t be sent back. Of course I can say that because there are no financial implications, others may take a different view because they have to......
 
Didnt expect this, when Cummings' wife writes for them


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They must be humiliated to have published a load of BS which they probably believed to be true at the time.
 
roydo said:
So, whilst technically, he didnt do anything actually prohibited, I am still rather puzzled. Why (if the reason was to safeguard his child/access a support network), the senior adviser to the PM, living in London, couldnt arrange support if he and his wife were unable to?
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Oh come on mate. Despite what 95% of what people on here claim, the instructions on what you must do have always been abundantly clear.

Stay at home and self isolate for 7 days if you have or suspect you have the virus.
Stay at home and self isolate for 14 days if somebody else in your household has or suspects they have the virus.

As part of the inner circle of politicians and advisors who came up with that mantra, it was Cummings duty and responsibility to abide by it to the letter. So technically, he not only broke that rule but also the rule relating to essential travel.

Fully agree with the second part of your post though. If somebody so senior couldn't arrange support for his child what chance have the rest of us got :).

Also, does anybody on here really believe that Cummings wasn't tested for covid. Of course he was which meant he had it. The fact that he then travelled over 200 miles to a different part of the country, a journey in which he would have had to have made at least 1 comfort stop seeing as he had a young child with him, is quite simply mind blowingly irresponsible.

Calderwood and Ferguson were guilty of far less demeanours (i.e. they didn't actually have the disease) and quite rightly resigned.
 
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