Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Interviews on main news and local news with teachers. Just had an email from head of school where my kids go bemoaning a critical staff shortage and that they can’t take Reception kids, year 1’s and year 6’s. Just pure overblown nonsense.

It's probably because some staff will still need to be shielding or at high risk so won't be able to come back. Where will the money be coming from to get more staff to look after nevermind teach the kids if they still can't come in? Will they be expecting proper education if these teachers and teaching assistants can't go back and the school having limited staff members? There are many issues that need to be looked at before just sending all the kids back. It's more about the kids and parents being safe as well not just the staff. But according to you teachers are a joke and don't want to go back until the virus has gone. So sorry it isn't overblown nonsense.
 
Do you know if there are any plans to extend the school year or catch up in anyway ?

If most kids don’t go back until September that’s a big chunk of the year they’ve missed and as much as online learning has filled a gap, there’s no way it’s a substitute for face to face teaching.

My lad knows lads in his year (9) who’ve hardly done a tap since they’ve been off, due to their parents being wasters who can’t be bothered. These are the kids who’ll slip through the cracks if not careful.
My wife is sat here and she said it's very unlikely for two main reasons, which she suspects would both need a change in the law:
  • Teachers contracts and holidays. Apparently, they aren't paid for the summer, but it's done pro rata across twelve months
  • Legal number of days where education has been provided - the argument is that online learning, like with my girls' school, would count to that.
There is also the issue with PFI deals, which one of her schools is, where the buildings won't be available for the summer months as per their contract.

Basically, their view is that most children will have had a gap in their education (currently at 24 school days) and as such they won't be behind as all in same boat.

Obviously some will be at an advantage, like my children who have received a good work, but the grade boundaries she suspects will hopefully reflect that.

I've told my girls to make the most of this and don't treat like a doss time because it could easily be to their advantage and push their grades up even further.
 
Would a company still apply for furlough if they are fully back again but some workers can’t go back due to childcare? Will companies and bosses care? I bet loads won’t and workers will be given ultimatums.
We'll see - you are allowed by law to have a month off a year unpaid paternal leave if you give 21 days notice - and there's nothing they can do - personally having over 26 years service at my firm they're welcome to make me redundant - they couldn't afford to in this climate.
 
Do you know if there are any plans to extend the school year or catch up in anyway ?

If most kids don’t go back until September that’s a big chunk of the year they’ve missed and as much as online learning has filled a gap, there’s no way it’s a substitute for face to face teaching.

My lad knows lads in his year (9) who’ve hardly done a tap since they’ve been off, due to their parents being wasters who can’t be bothered. These are the kids who’ll slip through the cracks if not careful.

It's very hard to say mate. There is no guidance from DfE or Ofsted so until there is I could only guess the choice will end up with schools. You have two options -- either pretend everyone did nothing over lockdown and start everyone from the same point, or continue on and leave those who've done little with big gaps in their knowledge. The first option punishes those who've been trying at home, the second one as you've said means a lot of potentially vulnerable children could fall through the cracks.

It's entirely possible schools will stay open over the summer for key worker kids, but there'd be outrage if they took the summer holidays away. As I've said, we haven't been on holiday and teaching is already a profession with an extreme rate of burnout, so taking away the holidays is a nightmare. I suspect there will be changes to next year's exams, perhaps similar to this year's, as year 10 and 12 for example will have missed at least 20% of their in school teaching for their GCSEs/A-Levels.

I know my school's pastoral team have been very busy reaching out to every pupil's family to ensure they are able to work. They are getting equipment out to those who can't where possible (the Government's scheme to get broadband and laptops to such pupils has yet to materialise, quelle surprise) and they are chasing up kids who haven't done their work (mainly to check on their welfare and try to support them).

It is a logistical nightmare and there could be ramifications for years to come. Ultimately though, if I may be blunt, lost education can be recovered, lost lives cannot.
 
The question where the pharmacist (looks like from the background) where she questioned why the guidance lacked clarity and Johnson's answer lacked clarity.

I don't think on the spot questioning is a good idea really. I think they should collect these questions in the morning and then address the nation with the answers in the evening.
 
My Police force nicked 19 off roaders the other weekend.... Nice little earner, goes a little way redress imbalance of the Barnett formula.
Sadly, the money goes straight to central government and not to the force.

I don't think on the spot questioning is a good idea really. I think they should collect these questions in the morning and then address the nation with the answers in the evening.
On one side I do agree with that, however it would give this government the option to cherry pick convenient questions with convenient answers.
 
We'll see - you are allowed by law to have a month off a year unpaid paternal leave if you give 21 days notice - and there's nothing they can do - personally having over 26 years service at my firm they're welcome to make me redundant - they couldn't afford to in this climate.

What’s the minimum now for redundancy? Thought it had been stripped to a week for every year you been there capped at 12 weeks. Was when I got made redundant a few years back (only had two years service so got 3 months notice and two weeks pay I think)
 
Do you know if there are any plans to extend the school year or catch up in anyway ?

If most kids don’t go back until September that’s a big chunk of the year they’ve missed and as much as online learning has filled a gap, there’s no way it’s a substitute for face to face teaching.

My lad knows lads in his year (9) who’ve hardly done a tap since they’ve been off, due to their parents being wasters who can’t be bothered. These are the kids who’ll slip through the cracks if not careful.

They won't extend the school year. By July, certain schools will have been open continuously since February. It would cause an almighty problem due to teachers terms and conditions.

I don't know about older children, but primary level tests are not actually comparible on a year by year basis as they don't have set benchmarks - they adjust each year according to what the average is each year. So, while this does not address gaps in their knowledge (which is a more serious problem), it does mean there won't be a massive dip in results as a result of it.
 
It doesn't matter if the risk is low in children it's about WHO they can pass it on to where the risk is high ffs - it's not rocket science.

Although, in reality, no-one knows for sure, the little research done suggests that children are quite a bit less likely to pass it onto adults than adults are to pass it onto children, so, it's not like dealing with a flu epidemic while children are super spreaders.

If it wasn't for the fact that, in this country, we're so reliant on grandparents for childcare, I'd be fairly relaxed about primary school kids going back to school. If we could solve the grandparents issue, the adults children would most likely infect would be their relatively young parents, most of whom would be healthy and low risk. Can't lie, I don't know how to alleviate the risk of putting higher risk parents in the firing line though.
 
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