Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[NilSatisOptimum]

The UK?

Not great is it. But until this all washes through, and it will, and the reality of who counted what and when and for what, becomes clear, all I care about is that the UK as a collective gets better.

Well, I obviously care more about my nearest and dearest, but measuring numbers against other countries to me is pointless.

Mmmm, never thought I would see any innocent death outside of child killers being treated with such flippancy on any Everton forum.

 

[scratchnsurf]

I wasn't having a pop at Teachers, I was just curious because my missus works for local government and is still on full pay (she is working from home) she's just come in and said teachers will (like her) still be on full pay.

I didn't take it as a pop at teachers - I was just highlighting the reasoning as I see it.

 

[roydo]

Mmmm, never thought I would see any innocent death outside of child killers being treated with such flippancy on any Everton forum.

Not being flippant at all mate.

I just think that until this all goes away, the Who won the CV Cup is for another day. Actually, that does sound pretty flippant, but point is, we have a pandemic. People will die. So I look forward to when that stops.

Only then can we accurately assess who has or who hasnt done "well"

 

[NorthernBlue]

I'm not sure I agree it's overblown nonsense but it certainly is a mess. Primary schools, being smaller on the whole have less capacity to deal with staff absence so with people shielding or isolating or ill, it can get difficult. The very limited guidance so far states the returning children should be in smaller groups, which necessitates more staff and more spaces to work in.

The majority of workplaces will be a mess. People covering multiple roles and duties. It’s not unique to schools. They’ve got to get on with it and come up with solutions. As front line workers teachers need to do more. The work they been sending to our kids is slap dash drivel mass emailed out with a ‘just do this if you can type attitude. Nothing proactive from them in terms of following anything up.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I didn't take it as a pop at teachers - I was just highlighting the reasoning as I see it.

My bad mate.

 

[RFUS]

No idea, but if I was a betting man, I would say yes.

We do. And personally I know I am very lucky in that regard. But contrary to popular believe most of us are not "on holiday".

Many teachers are still going into school to care for key worker kids and everyone else is likely to be creating materials and delivering online lessons.

Some teachers I know have been busier then ever as they and their schools were ill-equipped for this new online era of teaching, and so it's been a frantic scramble to adapt.

 

[Nymzee]

Chop chop Boris places to go, people to stand far away from.

 

[scratchnsurf]

Ive got sympathy with any profession on the front line. But they have a major part to play in getting people back to work. They and the attached unions seem to be the only ones putting up walls in every direction. If schools don’t open then many can’t go back to work and furlough will soon stop.

Ive got sympathy with any profession on the front line. But they have a major part to play in getting people back to work. They and the attached unions seem to be the only ones putting up walls in every direction. If schools don’t open then many can’t go back to work and furlough will soon stop.

Like I said - there's a bit more too it than that. I can't blame people for being concerned about their safety and it is the unions job to help protect them. Given how NHS staff and care workers have been failed, unions are right to ask to see the science and the reasoning.

With regards to opening - which is dependent on conditions in itself - the governments guidance is for smaller groups of children, but that's all it says so schools cannot yet know what staff they will need. The government have issued guidance for how to social distance in schools, challenging with a fraction of the children (of key workers) but impossible with up to 50% of children in school.

 

[Joey66]

Imagine openly admitting to supporting Everton though.

Never mind that- they range from a tenner to Twenty quid......

 

[scratchnsurf]

The majority of workplaces will be a mess. People covering multiple roles and duties. It’s not unique to schools. They’ve got to get on with it and come up with solutions. As front line workers teachers need to do more. The work they been sending to our kids is slap dash drivel mass emailed out with a ‘just do this if you can type attitude. Nothing proactive from them in terms of following anything up.

And how many schools is your sample size here?

 

[Joey66]

So take the high road if you understand the sacrifices and stop making it personal and just plain rude with belittling comments.

There's also a lovely ignore button that works wonders.

Actually it does not work.....,.

 

[NorthernBlue]

Like I said - there's a bit more too it than that. I can't blame people for being concerned about their safety and it is the unions job to help protect them. Given how NHS staff and care workers have been failed, unions are right to ask to see the science and the reasoning.

With regards to opening - which is dependent on conditions in itself - the governments guidance is for smaller groups of children, but that's all it says so schools cannot yet know what staff they will need. The government have issued guidance for how to social distance in schools, challenging with a fraction of the children (of key workers) but impossible with up to 50% of children in school.

I know it’s a big concern all that. As it is for us all. But they’ve got to get on with it haven’t they unless they don’t want schools to open until the virus is eradicated.

 

[Nymzee]

Think BoJo meant "no earlier" than July the 4th not at the latest unless he's giving the country a random deadline to get rid of this virus.

 

[NorthernBlue]

And how many schools is your sample size here?

Can only talk from my own experience and people I know. And I haven’t heard anything but complaints and gripes. Which is to be expected to a degree as teaching at the same level is obviously not possible. But what’s been provided to my kids and what I’ve heard from other friends and family sounds very similar.

 

[Catfish Blues]

missed his appearance today because of work / getting home / tea, but whats this about sewage testing?

I'm not up to speed with anything said on sewage today, but, on the basis that only do you cough the virus, you also crap it out, you can test effluent for most viruses and COVID can ( and I think has in some parts of the world ? ) probably be detected in Waste Treatment Plants. So, if you sample regularly, you should be able to get a reasonable estimate of the relative amount of virus circulating in the catchment areas.

Doesn't work so well if the treatment plant's near a hospital though.