Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[tsubaki]

"We were following the scientific advice given to us..." said Gove, Raab, Johnson, Hancock etc.

Govt were told we were way under stocked and under prepared for a pandemic in 2016 after a major review, told multiple times to increase the PPE stockpile, not a single medical gown was in the stock, they didn't buy one gown to put in the pandemic contingency.

I'll give you a perfect example of Tories spinning lies, when you hear Hancock/Raab/Gove quoting how much PPE has been supplied to Hospitals, they are counting the left hand glove and the right hand glove as two pieces of PPE.

Gloves are the top of the table for the PPE item most supplied, and that's because they count each hand separately, doubling the amount supplied.

Yes but the British public don’t want to see the Government be blamed, as that thing the Government and it’s mates pushed out showed!

 

[peteblue]

"We were following the scientific advice given to us..." said Gove, Raab, Johnson, Hancock etc.

Govt were told we were way under stocked and under prepared for a pandemic in 2016 after a major review, told multiple times to increase the PPE stockpile, not a single medical gown was in the stock, they didn't buy one gown to put in the pandemic contingency.

I'll give you a perfect example of Tories spinning lies, when you hear Hancock/Raab/Gove quoting how much PPE has been supplied to Hospitals, they are counting the left hand glove and the right hand glove as two pieces of PPE.

Gloves are the top of the table for the PPE item most supplied, and that's because they count each hand separately, doubling the amount supplied.

Idiots, they were told to count each finger separately........

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yes but the British public don’t want to see the Government be blamed, as that thing the Government and it’s mates pushed out showed!

If you asked the British public how much PPE a hospital gets through a day, how many would get the answer right do you think?

 

[Barnfred 55]

The Czech pubs are open but expect people to wear a mask, keep a social distance, and not use the toilet (as they're shut to the public). I'm not sure which of those is sillier.

Yeah

Saw you post that the other day.

Can you just imagine the scenes in here if Johnson came out and said that. Pubs and restaurants re-opening but you have to wear face maskslol

It would make sense if the staff wore face masks though.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Happy clappy like bait for the Tory libertarian crowd where we all born equal and we all have a reset button its just a matter of personal/individual choice, don't you know, blah blah blah. Just like the lack of PPE will have no bearing on COVID19 hospital aquired infections , as the Government will look to proportion blame everywhere else...

Eh?

 

[bullybeef]

Hancock is a beaten man inside.

I think he comes across as a decent bloke and I think he has the look of someone who will come clean to ease his conscience in time.

Johnson and Gove are just compulsive liars who don’t care how much those lies damage the lives of others... the leave campaign with lies at the foundation of their arguments given as an example.

 

[blulouie]

To be honest, I suspect they are. From experience, away from the punch and judy visage, many politicians get on perfectly well, and are capable of working effectively together. The tiresome tubthumpers who regard everyone on the opposite benches as the enemy come what may are in a (vocal) minority.

Not sure yanno.

I've yet to see anything in Starmer , Nandy , Philips or Wrong Daily to fill me with confidence taking Boris and his co-horts to task.

What we need is a Tony Benn...& quick.

 

[Jebus_lives]

It’s right though. It’s bad enough being stuck in the house, having constant negativity thrown at you doesn’t help. If they can’t say or do anything to improve the situation I’d rather they stayed quiet.

If the same people had been reporting on WW2 we would all be speaking German......

Never miss an opportunity do you Pete?

Imagine during the great fire of London, you looked at it and thought 'that will put itself out' or 'well if we are happy to sacrifice these houses it's ok because Birmingham will be fine'

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

He is a nasty piece of work , a lot of the questions he asks are very valid & relevant but then turns everyone off with his constant overtalking and not letting them reply properly.
Just a pity we havent got credable opposition to ask the same questions.

We have got to a point now where the opposition has no media platform. Sure it has Channel 4 and the Guardian, however, they simply dont have the reach in reader and viewership... If Starmer waded into the Government over this Mail Times that horrible other rat rag along with Sky BBC and ITV news would tear into him for politicising and weaponize every single death.
Long resided myself, and people will have to bare their own witness in who they voted for and fully accept that more money in your pocket does have consequences of unnecessary deaths.

 

[Barnfred 55]

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is that £6.40 per mask?

 

[RAFUH]

Dunno tbh. What I've read suggests it's not obesity directly, but people with diabetes, respiratory disease, heart disease and cancer do appear to be far more vulnerable when they catch covid. It's not a clear correlation like, as the graph below shows obesity rates across Europe (for women)

There's some suggestion for obesity in and of itself being a risk for developing severe disease. CDC lists severe obesity as an independent risk factor.
Obesity especially abdominal obesity can decrease lung volume and make it more difficult for lungs to inflate. There are a host of suspected mechanisms.


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Lighter and her colleagues found that patients under 60 with a BMI over 35 were at least twice as likely to be admitted to the ICU for coronavirus than patients with healthy BMIs, the researchers report April 9 in Clinical Infectious Diseases. Those same patients were three times more likely to die from the infection than those with a lower BMI, she says.
The team tracked 3,615 people who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, at a New York City hospital from March 4 to April 4. Of those, 1,370, or 38 percent, were obese. In patients over 60, weight did not appear to be a factor in hospital admission or the need for intensive care, she says.
A hospital in Lille, France, also found that the higher the BMI, the more likely a patient needed to be ventilated. Of 124 patients admitted to intensive care for COVID-19, almost half were obese or severely obese, researchers report April 9 in Obesity. Of the 85 patients who were intubated, nearly 90 percent had a BMI over 35, the data show.

 

[davek]

The Scottish Government now issuing guidelines on wearing face masks: to be worn in shops and public transport.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Eh?

Sniffy?

 

[peteblue]

is that £6.40 per mask?

It is, nice little earner isn’t it......

 

[Jebus_lives]

Sniffy?

Just haven't a clue what you're on about.