Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Which is invariably why people will start to make their own minds up and start going back to normal.

That's the thing mate, if the government published the scientific findings and outlined a strategy of easing the lockdown, then that may go a long way to reassure the public. At the moment though it comes across as everything being done of the hoof.

 

[davek]

No, I haven't been out during this thing. I have a turbo trainer at home so have been using that for my workouts. Personally, I don't think the risk of transmission is that high from cycling, my main issues against it at the moment are:
a) there is a risk of injury (however small) that would require medical attention
b) there is a risk of mechanical that would require you to get help to get home
c) a degree of solidarity towards those whose exercise of choice is not 'permitted'

I get that. They are things I wrestle with. To minimize it I go where hardly any trafiic is, on a circular course, at a time of day when hardly anyone is about, and I dont go mad speed-wise. But yes, those are two issues.

I have a turbo trainer too - but it makes the noise of a jet engine, and I've always hated the feel of them anyway.

 

[mahermi1]

No, I haven't been out during this thing. I have a turbo trainer at home so have been using that for my workouts. Personally, I don't think the risk of transmission is that high from cycling, my main issues against it at the moment are:
a) there is a risk of injury (however small) that would require medical attention
b) there is a risk of mechanical that would require you to get help to get home
c) a degree of solidarity towards those whose exercise of choice is not 'permitted'

Is this Turbo trainer pricy ?

 

[Billy Dean]

Can face masks offer protection against SARS?
According to research on the SARS epidemic, face masks were the most consistently effective intervention for reducing the contraction and spread of SARS. In a Cochrane Review on the subject, six out of seven studies showed that face masks (surgical and N95) offered significant protection against SARS. Hand washing was also very effective, supported by four out of seven studies in a multivariate analysis.

Although most of the studies in the Cochrane Review were on medical workers in a hospital setting, one study followed community transmission of SARS in Beijing. It found that consistently wearing a mask in public was associated with a 70% reduction in the risk of catching SARS. Additionally, the authors of the paper noted that most people in the community wore simple surgical masks, not N95 respirators.

Should You Wear a Face Mask?
Like handwashing, face masks can only offer partial protection against Covid-19. The best defense right now is exactly what we’re being told to do by the experts — completely avoiding exposure to the SARS-CoV-2 virus through social distancing. So long as you’re staying home and nobody else in your home has been exposed to the virus, you should not wear a face mask.

However, some of us currently live with sick family members, and the rest of us will eventually need to come out of hiding. Based on the research, face masks are much more likely to help than to hurt. Even if it’s just a homemade cloth mask, if you wear it correctly and avoid touching it, the science suggests that it won’t hurt you and will most likely reduce your exposure to the virus.

 

[Billy Dean]

Sure, surgical masks, and improperly worn N95 respirator masks, do not offer perfect protection. But if the stated goal is to “flatten” the curve (as opposed to eradication of the virus), we have to abandon the black-and-white thinking, and embrace shades of grey. We cannot any longer claim that masks “are not effective”. We cannot allow the perfect to be the enemy of the good. What if a however partial protection afforded by leaky surgical or even self-made masks reduces transmission probability to an extent that is similar to that of the recommended (equally imperfect) distancing by more than 6 feet from each other or “not touching your face”? It could then double the impact of non-pharmacological intervention (NPI) on flattening the curve (FIG. 1).

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

To be fair, I don't mind him saying nothing about that at this stage. It just breeds confusion.

Lift the lockdown when you're going to lift it and only announce what measures are taken then, otherwise people just think it's the government dawdling and break the lockdown on their own.

It'll be early to mid May when the first measures are lifted and not until June/July that we're effectively out of it but with social distancing.

And then of course a completely inevitable second wave around September/October.

I know what you're saying mate, but whatever plan they have in place they could still put out there but with a caveat that it depends on the circumstances. IMO it would go a long way to assure the public.

The problem is it comes across as deflecting the issue and this will just make people take matters (wrongly) into their own hands.

 

[YoboCopter]

Alot of jobsworths, scare mongerers in here

Let people do there own thing worry about yourself

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

I get that. They are things I wrestle with. To minimize it I go where hardly any trafiic is, on a circular course, at a time of day when hardly anyone is about, and I dont go mad speed-wise. But yes, those are two issues.

I have a turbo trainer too - but it makes the noise of a jet engine, and I've always hated the feel of them anyway.

Hard to go at a mad speed with a set of bike stabilisers mate. lol

 

[Brennan]

Thing is mate businesses need to know in advance as do workers.

You cant just spring it on people Sunday evening "hey lads you're back in work tomorrow".

But that’s not what’s happening.

The government have confirmed lockdown will continue for approximately two more weeks as a minimum.

Anything announced now will not be certain as a huge amount can change in two weeks. Then people will moan that the Government changed their minds.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I get that. They are things I wrestle with. To minimize it I go where hardly any trafiic is, on a circular course, at a time of day when hardly anyone is about, and I dont go mad speed-wise. But yes, those are two issues.

I have a turbo trainer too - but it makes the noise of a jet engine, and I've always hated the feel of them anyway.

It's undoubtedly different elsewhere, but to get outside the M25, and thus into a degree of greenery, is around 20km from our house, so it's different for those who live in the countryside already. I've grown to like the turbo for that reason as timewise it provides a good bang for your buck. Very much an acquired taste though. Suppose all any of us can do is be as sensible as we can and hope for the best.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

@mahermi1 Mine wasn't, but yeah, you can spend up around a grand on them.

 

[davek]

It's undoubtedly different elsewhere, but to get outside the M25, and thus into a degree of greenery, is around 20km from our house, so it's different for those who live in the countryside already. I've grown to like the turbo for that reason as timewise it provides a good bang for your buck. Very much an acquired taste though. Suppose all any of us can do is be as sensible as we can and hope for the best.

Amen to that.

 

[davek]

Hard to go at a mad speed with a set of bike stabilisers mate. lol

You feel like you're going to take off - the 'kin noise!!

 

[bernie inn]

Zwift is your friend during these times, I'm fitter now than i've ever been

 

[Billy Dean]

Supposedly all change for us down here in the south - east from Tuesday, heavy rain coming in.

can't wait for a nice bit of rain. It's been sunny and 20 degrees here for a month