Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

Status
Not open for further replies.
Adam-GOTTV said:
So we're at 2,800 confirmed cases. This thing is now adding roughly 1,000 a day. So by the end of the week we could be looking at the same amount as infected as SARS. A reminder that SARS took 7 or 8 months to hit the same number. It has since been confirmed that this thing has an incubation period of up to 14 days. So that's potentially someone bowling around infecting others without even realising it for 14 DAYS.

Unpopular opinion, but I actually think the media is underplaying this. On this occasion I can't even accuse them of hysterics. Prince Andrew is bigger news tonight ffs.

In fact, I don't think many people have cottoned on to the severity of what we might be about to encounter. Given how woefully poor the initial response has been shown, what on earth makes you think that the Chinese can contain this? And even if they can, given the incubation period I mentioned above and the fact that 50,000 people have left Wuhan over Chinese New Year, it might not matter.

This virus is giving one in every 5 people who get it a serious condition. So that's one in five people needing life support, basically. Is there one country on the planet that won't get overwhelmed if numbers start to scale?

I hope I'm wrong and you all come back to take the piss out of me in a few weeks but I'm just going off the data. It really doesn't look good.
Click to expand...

The average age of those that have died from this variant of the cold is 75, with most having pre-existing health conditions. It's also in a generally deprived/very poor healthcare and hygiene standards area of the world.

The flu has a far higher mortality rate in otherwise healthy people and is far more common. Even in Wuhan I'd hazard a very safe guess that the flu has killed as many or close to it since this whole hysteria started.

The fear isn't really about what's happening now; it's about what could happen if it mutated.

It's not that this shouldn't be taken seriously, it's just that it's a prime example of the news and social media loving a 'sexy' story. The hitherto unknown 'coronavirus' gets more attention than the very well known 'influenza'. There's no way the media are underplaying this - if there was a conspiracy to hush it up, we simply wouldn't know about it or it'd be niche on Weibo etc. like we didn't about Spanish Flu.
 
arminisgod said:
This thing has a death rate of roughly 2% in context SARS was 10%.

It is hysteria. Even WHO haven't issued a global pandemic
Click to expand...

We'll get a better understanding of the mortality rate of this virus in the coming weeks as a better picture emerges. However, the transmission rate of SARS was much less.

Fingers crossed the reaction to this will prove to be hysterical. However, until we know what we're dealing with it's far better to be overly cautious and lessen the threat that way than to not take the threat seriously and have a massive body count on our hands.

The WHO have declared the virus to be a emergency within China and as the number of reported cases rise around the world then they'll reconsider the global threat.

However, this is to be taken more seriously than seasonal flu. To put it bluntly, seasonal flu is just nature's way of taking out the thrash.
 
Last edited:
I see those ex-pats in China on mega contracts now want the government to get them ‘home’
Pay some tax first, don’t take all the benefits and then cry for help - risk is risk
 
Tubey said:
The average age of those that have died from this variant of the cold is 75, with most having pre-existing health conditions. It's also in a generally deprived/very poor healthcare and hygiene standards area of the world.
The flu has a far higher mortality rate in otherwise healthy people and is far more common. Even in Wuhan I'd hazard a very safe guess that the flu has killed as many or close to it since this whole hysteria started.
The fear isn't really about whats happening now, its about what COULD happen if it mutated.

It's not that this shouldn't be taken seriously, it's just that it's a prime example of the news and social media loving a 'sexy' story. The hitherto unknown 'coronavirus' gets more attention than the very well known 'influenza'. There's no way the media are underplaying this - if there was a conspiracy to hush it up, we simply wouldn't know about it or it'd be niche on Weibo etc. like we didn't about Spanish Flu.
Click to expand...
With these things it always is.
I suppose it will one day, law of averages etc.
Trouble is, people forget the small lessons, handkerchiefs, coughs and sneezes spread diseases (old tv advert) washing hands etc.
Govts. forget the big lessons learnt from previous outbreaks, which are listed (and not enacted when its all over ) in the subsequent enquiries.
 
Paris said:
We'll get a better understanding of the mortality rate of this virus in the coming weeks as a better picture emerges. However, the transmission rate of SARS was much less.

Fingers crossed the reaction to this will prove to be hysterical. However, until we know what we're dealing with it's far better to be overly cautious and lessen the threat that way than to not take the threat seriously and have a massive body count on our hands.

The WHO have declared the virus to be a emergency within China and as the number of reported cases rise around the world then they'll reconsider the global threat.

However, this is to be taken more seriously than seasonal flu. To put it bluntly, seasonal flu is just nature's way of taking out the thrash.
Click to expand...

Bloody hell didn’t know Pete Townsend and Roger Daltrey were getting involved like.
 
arminisgod said:
This thing has a death rate of roughly 2% in context SARS was 10%.

It is hysteria. Even WHO haven't issued a global pandemic
Click to expand...
I don't think it is classed as a pandemic, which may explain why WHO haven't labelled it as one.

I do agree about the hysteria though, it does seem to be a bit over the top at the moment and while it may generate clicks for media today, it actually does a disservice in the long run as when a real emergency pathogen emerges, people will tend to ignore the threat as they are fatigued from all the previous "pandemics" which never were.

We can see examples of that in this very thread. If this virus comes to nothing much, who is going to take the next one seriously?
 
arminisgod said:
This thing has a death rate of roughly 2% in context SARS was 10%.

It is hysteria. Even WHO haven't issued a global pandemic
Click to expand...
Exactly 2% mortality rate. Those that have died we're weak and old. Our medical facilities will deal with it.

However. I would think the Chinese aren't telling us the whole truth. And suggestions that numbers could be 10 times what they have told us so far.
 
Adam-GOTTV said:
So we're at 2,800 confirmed cases. This thing is now adding roughly 1,000 a day. So by the end of the week we could be looking at the same amount as infected as SARS. A reminder that SARS took 7 or 8 months to hit the same number. It has since been confirmed that this thing has an incubation period of up to 14 days. So that's potentially someone bowling around infecting others without even realising it for 14 DAYS.

Unpopular opinion, but I actually think the media is underplaying this. On this occasion I can't even accuse them of hysterics. Prince Andrew is bigger news tonight ffs.

In fact, I don't think many people have cottoned on to the severity of what we might be about to encounter. Given how woefully poor the initial response has been shown, what on earth makes you think that the Chinese can contain this? And even if they can, given the incubation period I mentioned above and the fact that 50,000 people have left Wuhan over Chinese New Year, it might not matter.

This virus is giving one in every 5 people who get it a serious condition. So that's one in five people needing life support, basically. Is there one country on the planet that won't get overwhelmed if numbers start to scale?

I hope I'm wrong and you all come back to take the piss out of me in a few weeks but I'm just going off the data. It really doesn't look good.
Click to expand...
they can absolutely be accused of hysterics, the language in every headline is as hyperbolic as always. they profit nothing from underplaying it
 
AsiaAsia82 said:
I see those ex-pats in China on mega contracts now want the government to get them ‘home’
Pay some tax first, don’t take all the benefits and then cry for help - risk is risk
Click to expand...
The expats I know usually earn less than they would at home (but more than locals) and pay tax. Even if your experiences are different it seems a bit of a weird thing to get upset about.
 
WA Toffee said:
The expats I know usually earn less than they would at home (but more than locals) and pay tax. Even if your experiences are different it seems a bit of a weird thing to get upset about.
Click to expand...

well think of those who have to risk life and limb in some cases to rescue those people who cry help when their adventures go wrong.
Especially those sent there under resourced and poorly equipped
I don’t find that weird
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Welcome

Join the Everton conversation today.
Fewer ads, full access, completely free.

→ Log in 🔑 Register
🛒 Visit Shop

Support Grand Old Team by checking out our latest Everton gear!
Back
Top