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Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!
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tsubaki
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I think it's a bit early to say that with any certainty. Theres nothing to infer it couldn't come back either relatively soon or in the fall like the Spanish Flu did.
BrendanGOT
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More and more models coming out suggesting its already ran through most of the community. Seen one today showing upper and lower respiratory illness that required hospitalisation, shows that its very likely that the UK cases peaked mid March. The delayed and following death toll, which is now on the decline, would seem to back that up. So the peak was before lockdown even happened however there was a drastic dip in upper respiratory illness once the "wash your hands and distance" advice was brought in followed by a further dip upon lockdown.
tsubaki
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the millions he is pouring out to the usual suspects for "advice" are being well spent
he'd be better off giving 10% of the money to us and have GOT run his kingdom for him
It is an exciting pharmaceutical development, but the researcher being a billionaire tells you a lot.
Dupixent, which is mentioned frequently is around $3200 a month.
The new drug will be a biologic so under current law will never have a ”generic”
Hopefully you're right.
BrendanGOT
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I think it's certain that it will come back in waves, like flu every year, but its nowhere near as deadly as the Spanish flu was, in terms of death toll/cases. Unless we're super unlucky and it mutates into a super corona but as previous posters have said it's unlikely. Also it seems the Spanish flu is abit misunderstood.
"...a 2007 analysis of medical journals from the period of the pandemic found that the viral infection was no more aggressive than previous influenza strains. Instead, malnourishment, overcrowded medical camps and hospitals, and poor hygiene promoted bacterial superinfection. This superinfection killed most of the victims, typically after a somewhat prolonged death bed."
We're certainly not faced with those conditions in modern society however 3rd world countries could be.
End of the day, it is not going away mate. People need to realise this. Countries can't hide in lockdown until it goes away and or a cure/ preventative is found. The lockdown was only ever put in place to take strain off healthcare systems etc.
Also on that, some specialists are suggesting a "successful" vaccine isn't as likely to happen as some are suggesting. (I'll hoke out the article if u want). Treatments to ease sympotons and help recovery is probably the best course of action in the short term to give people with bad immune systems a chance to fight it off better, if they can figure out what that is ofc. Asides that it seems most healthy people fight it off or don't even get any symtoms.
Need to look at countries like Sweden and how they get on with their herd immunity approach. Also need to look at what countries like Germany etc done differently to have less deaths and most importantly they need to begin testing for immunity in the community ASAP. My opinion is that its more vital right now to test for immunity than testing for mild/ asymptomatic case positives who're on lockdown anyway. If certain models and specialists are correct then there's a bigger immunity than already realised.
Long story short, we can't hide from it forever, in the current situation that will cause more deaths through poverty, mental illness etc than the virus ever will.
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Which ones mate? Here in the US most I’ve seen is around 14% for New York pregnant women and somewhere between 2 and 5% in Washington/California and in a recent Wuhan study.
I agree that for this wave cases thankfully look to have peaked but that is a different thing than most of the country having already been exposed.
Tea_drinker
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We are nowhere near the capability of testing and tracing enough to get out of this lockdown. The tories are gonna use the possible danger of a second spike to keep us all locked up till they have finally got their backsides into gear and organised something.
Well the point of sustaining lockdown measures 'beyond the peak' is to hopefully reduce the risk of that happening or, more specifically, ensure health care systems can handle it without countries having to go into a second lockdown.
I mean we're not the only country doing that so it isn't really a 'Tory' thing - as much as the government have messed up.
Treat it in 3 week blocks. We're through block one of lockdown - and that was building up to the peak. We're currently in block two, the peak - which started last week (week 4 of lockdown, like in other countries) and will likely last for the next 10 days at least. While you're right we aren't testing enough, it also means that the amount of people who have actually had this thing and have been fine is way, way higher, so that means the mortality rate is lower. than the 'official' figures show. Same the world over.
We have to get through this second block and see a sustained flattening/drop off in the curves in terms of deaths and confirmed cases.
Then, the next block of 3-weeks will, hopefully, and depending on the success of other European nations, be about easing certain measures slowly but surely but still keeping a lot of them in place.
That's all we can do for now. At the end of the 9 weeks total, we'll have to see where we're at and what can be opened up again. Gatherings will be off the cards until July/August at the earliest I imagine, for example.
Charlie Sweet
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So predictable. Not sure what you can point to exactly here?
Complicit? Wow. Do you actually know what that word means?
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