Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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There’s no way you’re at war if your PM isn’t there,” the adviser said. “And what you learn about Boris was he didn’t chair any meetings. He liked his country breaks. He didn’t work weekends. It was like working for an old-fashioned chief executive in a local authority 20 years ago. There was a real sense that he didn’t do urgent crisis planning. It was exactly like people feared he would be.”
Anyone care to argue with my murderers charge now?


We were promised Churchill leadership. We got Lord Kitchener...
 
Especially ones in power....
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Why are so many in this thread prepared to accept the narrative that this worldwide pandemic the likes we've not seen in our lifetime was started by people buying bats for a stir fry in a Wuhan market.

I could go with that story, peddled by the China Govt, was it not for the fact Wuhan is the centre for research into coronaviruses in the world for the last 20 years, of all the places it starts there?, with clear documented concerns that the lab at Wuhan was not being run safely.

Off all the coronaviruses that have gone before, Covid-19 is a monster of the likes we have never seen before, it is 90+% a sibling to SARS which in 2003/4 killed 800 and infected 8000, it stinks of human intervention and that Covid-19 has been modified to be a deadly virus that spreads like no other related virus before.
Probably because I am a firm believer in “correlation does not imply causation”
 
Why is it so taboo to consider that the virus might have originated in a lab? I'm picking up a weird vibe, tbh. lol

For me it isn’t so much taboo as I haven’t seen any data to support it and quite a bit to disprove it. If that evidence changes I’m open to changing my mind.

Why are so many in this thread prepared to accept the narrative that this worldwide pandemic the likes we've not seen in our lifetime was started by people buying bats for a stir fry in a Wuhan market.

I could go with that story, peddled by the China Govt, was it not for the fact Wuhan is the centre for research into coronaviruses in the world for the last 20 years, of all the places it starts there?, with clear documented concerns that the lab at Wuhan was not being run safely.

The below is from a science journal, before reading consider how ultra-quickly the chinese government built those temporary hospitals. That's not an action normally associated with the very beginnings of a naturally-occuring flu-like illness doing its initial rounds. Also consider how it's generally accepted they've not been telling us the whole story, and only recently admitting 50% more deaths, they're not sharing information like we would like them to. Consider the vlogs of people like Winston Serpentza, which show the chinese government encouraging a very different news ethic to what we have here in the West.

The rest of the Live Science piece does not consider there to be evidence of an intentional man-made virus leak, but there is room for a virus that was being researched there to have leaked, perhaps accidentally.

Full article here, choice quote below:

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The Wuhan Institute of Virology lab, along with researchers in the U.S. and Switzerland, showed in 2015 the scary capability of bat coronaviruses to thrive in human cells. In that paper, which was published in 2015 in the journal Nature Medicine, they described how they had created a chimeric SARS-like virus out of the surface spike protein of a coronavirus found in horseshoe bats, called SHC014, and the backbone of a SARS virus that could be grown in mice. The idea was to look at the potential of coronaviruses circulating in bat populations to infect humans. In a lab dish, the chimeric coronavirus could infect and replicate in primary human airway cells; the virus also was able to infect lung cells in mice.

That study was met with some pushback from researchers who considered the risk of that kind of research to outweigh the benefits. Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris, was one of those scientists. Wain-Hobson emphasized the fact that this chimeric virus "grows remarkably well" in human cells, adding that "If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory," Nature News reported.
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