Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Goat]

I dont think one country in the globalised world passing the blame onto another one is at all helpful.

It's just cold war nonsense that our failing government would like you to repeat in order to cover up their disastrous handling of the crisis.

They want everybody to blame China, its NOT Chinas fault that the UK has people dying, its the job of the UK government to protect UK citizens.

The facts are simple, they knew what we were dealing with in early January and choose to waste 3 months till they finally acted late March, thats not Chinas fault.

When this is all over, I want War crime trials at the Hague and Bojo will be first up before the beak.

 

[Armaghtoffee]

Of course it is.
Did the virus start in China, yes.
Did the Chinese try to conceal it, yes,
Did they lie regarding how contagious it was, yes
Did they lie about the numbers, yes
Did the U.K. get on board quickly enough, no
Has the government followed the scientific advice, yes
Did the U.K. change strategy, yes
Was the U.K. prepared for this pandemic, no
Have the Government, CS, CSA, CMO, NHS and PHE made mistakes, yes
Have the government thrown all the resources they have at this, yes
Have the government looked after Business and Workers, yes
Did Boris set out to murder the population, no
Could the government have handled this better, yes
Would Corbyn and his cronies have managed the situation better, no
Do I have confidence that the government will get us through this, yes.....

So you are agreeing with me then Pete.

 

[Axlswhk]

They want everybody to blame China, its NOT Chinas fault that the UK has people dying, its the job of the UK government to protect UK citizens.

The facts are simple, they knew what we were dealing with in early January and choose to waste 3 months till they finally acted late March, thats not Chinas fault.

When this is all over, I want War crime trials at the Hague and Bojo will be first up before the beak.

Are you serious?

 

[LinekersLegs]

This is consistent with other reports elsewhere

African-American COVID-19 deaths ‘disproportionately’ high in California

Data tracked by the California Department of Public Health shows African-Americans have been disproportionally impacted by COVID-19.

www.mercurynews.com

“We do have strong information suggesting that African-Americans were two and a half times the rate of non-Hispanic whites in terms of hospitalizations and ICU care,” Lockhart said. “They are definitely coming in sicker.”
...
Lockhart believes in the state of California — which has what he described as a “dogged devotion to the Affordable Care Act” — insurance coverage has proven less of an issue in terms of receiving care than socioeconomic status.

“We did some geospatial mapping and noted that compared to others, the majority of our African-American patients tended to be in the lower socioeconomic statuses,” Lockhart said. “We look at them both for the Bay Area and Sacramento and they were much more likely to be low-income than whites or Asians and even to some extent the Hispanic population as well.”

Many low-income workers are also in jobs that have been deemed essential under the current shelter-in-place orders, putting them in positions where they are more likely to be exposed to the virus. And at the same time, they might be less likely to seek care at an ambulatory, or outpatient, facility, Lockhart said.

“We have this idea of coverage, but we also have an idea of how people access the healthcare system,” Lockhart said. “In our own prior health equity work looking at the same demographic and how our African-American patients even for ambulatory care conditions accessed the healthcare system, it tended to be more on the hospital side than the ambulatory side.”

 

[Goat]

Are you serious?

Which part?

But yes, I mean every word.

 

[peteblue]

I dont think one country in the globalised world passing the blame onto another one is at all helpful.

It's just cold war nonsense that our failing government would like you to repeat in order to cover up their disastrous handling of the crisis.

It is very helpful indeed. The world knows where it came from, we just don’t as yet know how it was produced by them. Pretending otherwise is just burying your head in the sand. In a car crash, you look for the cause, not blame the police or ambulance or NHS afterwards.....you are wilfully ignoring the cause.....that is shameful tbh.....

 

[peteblue]

So you are agreeing with me then Pete.

Yes...

 

[davek]

They want everybody to blame China, its NOT Chinas fault that the UK has people dying, its the job of the UK government to protect UK citizens.

The facts are simple, they knew what we were dealing with in early January and choose to waste 3 months till they finally acted late March, thats not Chinas fault.

When this is all over, I want War crime trials at the Hague and Bojo will be first up before the beak.

Spot on mate.

I cant figure out how anyone can focus on anything other than a government that's overseeing the worst case of this virus in the whole of Europe.

They've turned us into a banana republic. ...but dont call them nasty names...that's just not cricket.

 

[davek]

It is very helpful indeed. The world knows where it came from, we just don’t as yet know how it was produced by them. Pretending otherwise is just burying your head in the sand. In a car crash, you look for the cause, not blame the police or ambulance or NHS afterwards.....you are wilfully ignoring the cause.....that is shameful tbh.....

"Blah blah blah, deflect...blah blah blah, deflect .."

 

[peteblue]

"Blah blah blah, deflect...blah blah blah, deflect .."

...don’t forget murderers.....

 

[COYBL25]

Well things are warming nicely in here this evening.

 

[Axlswhk]

Which part?

But yes, I mean every word.

The part about china having no fault?

imagine the backlash if UK did exactly the same.

 

[roydo]

Spot on mate.

I cant figure out how anyone can focus on anything other than a government that's overseeing the worst case of this virus in the whole of Europe.

They've turned us into a banana republic. ...but dont call them nasty names...that's just not cricket.

But you commended the country that visited this on the planet. Its really weird.

 

[davek]

But you commended the country that visited this on the planet. Its really weird.

No, I didn't. I commended the aid that country gave and is giving.

I'm not blinded to the crimes of any government.

 

[neil999]

Interesting that it's assumed corbyn and Labour, who would be disastrous as they would do things so differently it would wreck the economy, wouldn't do anything different/better in the face of this crisis...