Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Italy's health minister has suggested no bars/restaurants and gatherings etc will not be opened until a vaccine is found.

The Italian government has not offered businesses any support apart from repayable loans.

It was already pretty down economically anyway. That country is knackered. Their approach will cost them more lives than the virus has.
 
davek said:
Defend the horrible scumbag all you want mate. I see it clearly: a man who had his policy of devil take the hindmost, then bottled it, and then hid away for weeks (where is he now, btw?).

A cats paw for a murderous regime.
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Not even sure who you're talking about now tbh mate!

If it's the PM, well he had the virus and was very ill. If its Whitty then I'm pretty sure he had the virus too. I think they had a fair enough excuse for being away from work.

Not sure why everything has to be so dramatic but carry on Dave
 
Harryflashman said:
the mask stuff is interesting I was going to post earlier and it was half covered in the briefing tonight but it Does seem masks are generally only useful to reduce infection from those wearing despite many viewing it as some kind of panacea. That said we do seem to be flip flopping on that as we have on other issues however I do accept that changes in data may influence that .
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Some of these snowflake journalists would have us all wearing full hazmat suits. I don’t know how the CSA and CMO are able to bite their tongues listening to the same inane questions from 30 something no nothings day after day. I’d love one of them to just say, ‘when there’s something important I’d like you to print, I’ll tell you, until then carry on playing games on your computer’......
 
COYBL25 said:
My missus is virtually unable to spend any money at the mo due to the lockdown.

Once it is lifted she’ll do her level best to spend it immediately- hair, nails, clothes and other assorted crap .

If you multiply this across the country, I’m sure there’ll be a massive bounce in certain sectors of the economy.
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My missus cut her own hair this morning and asked me if I wanted mine doing. I was out the back door and mowing the lawn faster than you can say hair clippers. She so knows how to play me. .lol

But seriously, things will take a while to get back to normal. Things like nails and hair, my missus get's them done every month. People will go again but many won't because of social distancing. And you can't take back the 2/3 months missed due to the lockdown. Other things like bars/restaurants and cafes will be on reduced sittings due to social distancing. Many people will be frightened to go abroad on holiday. I'm half expecting it to be chaotic down here in Cornwall if we're allowing UK travel by then. But airlines will continue to take a big hit IMO as will packaged holidays.

Yeah there are some things that we're holding off on buying now that we'll get later in the year. But for a lot of things it will take more time to get back to normal.

I reckon I'm not spending around £400pm just on going out for drinks and meals. The missus must be saving another £200pm on nails, haircuts and petrol etc
 
ToffeeTim said:
Not even sure who you're talking about now tbh mate!

If it's the PM, well he had the virus and was very ill. If its Whitty then I'm pretty sure he had the virus too. I think they had a fair enough excuse for being away from work.

Not sure why everything has to be so dramatic but carry on Dave
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To be fair, I heard that Cummings literally pushed Geraldine from Bermondsey out of her intensive care bed so that Johnson could go there for his photo opp treatment.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
My missus cut her own hair this morning and asked me if I wanted mine doing. I was out the back door and mowing the lawn faster than you can say hair clippers. She so knows how to play me. .lol

But seriously, things will take a while to get back to normal. Things like nails and hair, my missus get's them done every month. People will go again but many won't because of social distancing. And you can't take back the 2/3 months missed due to the lockdown. Other things like bars/restaurants and cafes will be on reduced sittings due to social distancing. Many people will be frightened to go abroad on holiday. I'm half expecting it to be chaotic down here in Cornwall if we're allowing UK travel by then. But airlines will continue to take a big hit IMO as will packaged holidays.

Yeah there are some things that we're holding off on buying now that we'll get later in the year. But for a lot of things it will take more time to get back to normal.

I reckon I'm not spending around £400pm just on going out for drinks and meals. The missus must be saving another £200pm on nails, haircuts and petrol etc
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If I lie down on your lawn, do you reckon you could give me a short back and sides?
 
@MarcelsGoat

Ok a better way of putting it.

  • 10000 die from Corona virus.
  • 10000 die after testing positive for the coronavirus
Can you see the difference in the wording there? One is cause of death, the other isn't. Yet it's presented in a way where the latter means the former. If that makes sense?

So if the stories were focused on the infection rates , which is the key part in all of this , then the latter would be applicable in the narrative. Yet the articles focus on the number of deaths instead , so the latter is then not accurate.

Simple wording difference but two completely different meanings.
 
Barnfred 55 said:
My missus cut her own hair this morning and asked me if I wanted mine doing. I was out the back door and mowing the lawn faster than you can say hair clippers. She so knows how to play me. .lol

But seriously, things will take a while to get back to normal. Things like nails and hair, my missus get's them done every month. People will go again but many won't because of social distancing. And you can't take back the 2/3 months missed due to the lockdown. Other things like bars/restaurants and cafes will be on reduced sittings due to social distancing. Many people will be frightened to go abroad on holiday. I'm half expecting it to be chaotic down here in Cornwall if we're allowing UK travel by then. But airlines will continue to take a big hit IMO as will packaged holidays.

Yeah there are some things that we're holding off on buying now that we'll get later in the year. But for a lot of things it will take more time to get back to normal.

I reckon I'm not spending around £400pm just on going out for drinks and meals. The missus must be saving another £200pm on nails, haircuts and petrol etc
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Most holiday parks, caravan sites, hotels in the UK will already have been booked up prior to this, so it`ll just be day trippers and anyone who can get a cancellation.

I`ve got loads of pre booked stuff in the UK and most have stopped taking bookings ( makes sense ) and are offering existing customers priority for when if and when it returns to normal - they want to keep your deposit !!
 
peteblue said:
Dave, they are not murderers, just scientists and medics trying to do their job while all the media are losing their heads...
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With the best intentions they backed the wrong horse at the start of the race, then inplay tried to lay off as much as they could on the nags South Korea and Germany had backed before the off.
 
ClausThomsen said:
There seems to be no desire from the media to highlight just how many cases aren't being reported. My missus is a nurse in a care home and she has several residents fallen ill and 4 deaths in the last 7 days. No testing available but if push came to shove she would put a large bet on Covid-19 being the cause of death.

That's one care home. In this town alone I'd put a conservative guess of around 15 care homes at least in the area. Even if we say there are only half the Covid deaths that she suggests that's a very low estimate of 30 that aren't being recorded at the moment. And that's one town....

Add to that the amount of people who are having heart attacks due to the strain the body is under from Covid-19. I've not seen figures for the UK but there are reports coming from New York of a spike in cardiac arrests between 20th March & 5 April - up 400% on the same period last year. Those that die of cardiac arrest aren't counted as Covid-19 deaths either.
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If you saw the daily press conference today almost all the questions were on this subject.

They said 13.5% of care homes across the country are now CV-19 positive. They didn't say how many deaths there had been but that this information can be easily found within the NHS website. Apparently the doctors who prepare the death certificates for those that die at home or in care homes are instructed to put CV-19 as cause of death if the person had been showing symptoms. So the likelihood is that CV-!) will be replacing old age on the death certificates of those hat die in homes.

A few weeks ago they said that the number if people dying of CV-19 in the community was around 78 from memory. I would imagine that this would now be upto several hundred and probably over a 1000.
 
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