Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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alvinh said:
You've not understood my post.

The argument isn't that social distancing is counter productive, it's that social distancing measures introduced too soon are less effective and therefore counter productive.

As above, we intuitively feel that we should act as soon as possible. The experts tell us differently. They do this having studied hundreds of outbreaks, assessed countless responses. Modelled all of this in simulations. etc etc.

You may know better than them, I don't pretend to.
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Lord goldsmith, an expert, once advised that a war of naked aggression on a sovereign state was legal. Or at least that's what we the public saw (although few believed it even then) we know now he had major reservations and can deduce what really happened, and what always happens in such situations. Malcolm Tucker goes to work!

I would actually agree though that timing is important. Aggressive measures would probably have been pointless a few weeks back, but we know the trajectory of this disease, and we know that a few hundred cases now will be a few thousand very soon, and that these numbers will rise exponentially, the collapse of the healthcare services a genuine possibility.
They don't need computer simulations, merely to look at the numbers it Italy a week or two ago, when they were similar to ours and the government reacted inadequately but still more aggressively than ours is doing! Read what their doctors on the front lines are saying.Get ahead of it before its too late...

If they are looking at computer simulations, and ignoring the actual virus itself that is actually running rampant through Iran and Italy then god help you all...
 
Irish federation of undertakers now considering that deceased from the virus should be buried or cremated as quickly as possible without any funeral service.

Health experts are unclear how long the virus stays in a body after death incuding in air that may remain in the lungs.

No handshakes at funerals already.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
On that point, the Timmelsjoch is a heck of a climb. Have you ridden it? Shame it hasn't been used in the Giro after the riders hid in the tunnel due to snow in the Hampsten edition.
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Never done anything from Austria to Italy. Enjoyed the Petit and Grand Saint Bernard when I went to watch the Tour stage where Jens Voigt sanded his face off in 2009... a memorable day because firstly, I got passed by a still-training Ricardo Ricco on my way up the Grand and rugby tackled off the road on way home over the Petit because I assumed the convoy was through 10 minutes after the sprinters group passed me only to find Kenny Van Hummel was still to come. I still think he wouldn't have caught me.
 
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Coronavirus: a Milano oltre duecento casi, un 18enne in Rianimazione. Gli aggiornamenti di martedì 10 marzo

In regione 1.280 nuovi contagi, che portano a 5.469 il totale; 2.802 ricoverati, cioè 585 in più nelle ultime 24 ore; 440 persone in terapia intensiva (+41); 76 morti in più per 333 totali (9 a Milano). Gallera: «Altre due settimane così non le reggiamo»
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So 'something else' must take over, that is, the interruption or at least the slowdown of the infections. Like? 'By reducing one's social life, contacts between people.' Because this is the vehicle on which the virus travels. Hence the renewed appeal to 'stay at home' of the regional government: 'There is no drug, there is no vaccine against coronavirus - he repeats - the only way to combat the epidemic is to drastically reduce our social life and avoid displacements. ' And to be even more convincing, Councilor Gallera cites a figure: 33 percent of the Lombard inpatients in intensive care are aged between 50 and 64. So even though 37 percent of intubated people are between 65 and 74 and 22 percent are over 75, 'it is not true that the virus attacks only the elderly'. Among other things, an 18-year-old boy was hospitalized in intensive care at San Raffaele on Monday. Also affected by Covid-19.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Caveating the following advice as I'm in no way medically trained, but I'm not sure it's feasible or advisable to avoid all human contact just in case.
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Yes absolutely. But sitting in a restaurant with 20 randoms seems a little daunting too. I’m probably gonna give it a miss for a while
 
Disgruntledgoat said:
Never done anything from Austria to Italy. Enjoyed the Petit and Grand Saint Bernard when I went to watch the Tour stage where Jens Voigt sanded his face off in 2009... a memorable day because firstly, I got passed by a still-training Ricardo Ricco on my way up the Grand and rugby tackled off the road on way home over the Petit because I assumed the convoy was through 10 minutes after the sprinters group passed me only to find Kenny Van Hummel was still to come. I still think he wouldn't have caught me.
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The Italy into Austria side is the best way over (imo). Bit further down the way you've got the crossing past the Lake Reschen (the pass itself is very nondescript), but you have the flooded village near the top, which is quite interesting.

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Legend has it that someone coughed once and they thought "[Poor language removed] this" and turned the hoses on. I suspect Ricardo Ricco literally has to keep training to prevent his blood from turning to cement.
 
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