Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Yeah he's had a shocker there. Those staff shouldn't have to be taking any chances with PPE and I could forgive every single last one for taking every precaution necessary. Hancock and his gang of crooks shouldn't have let it get this far in the first place.

He should have kept his mouth shut. The word could have gone out locally via team meetings or whatever. Whatever good intentions he may have had he’s screwed it up....
 
First day back at work and I can assure you people are not just shopping for essentials.
I've just looked at the amount of seperate transactions we have done since doors opened at 8am and it's currently 6288 as we approach 5pm.


Social distance being maintained though and no issues from people complaining about the queue to get in as it's a very pleasant afternoon.

Thing is though toast, you go for essentials but the shops are still the same in terms of what they are selling. So you go out for bread and milk but walk past something non-essential you need (for me that would be beer or wine) and you just put it in your basket. Social distancing does seem to be adhered to though.
 
there is a reason the government have been hugely critical of the chief con who half advocated road blocks and checking shopping , even though he didn’t really , or why forces have apologised for over zealousness when that never happens . It’s because consent is hugely important and that’s how policing works .

one cop today way arresting someone today whilst talking about the bloke breaking ‘guidelines‘ . Well clearly That’s a messy business isn’t it ? The police in this country , by and large , Do a decent job but overzealousness leads to this . I’m guessing that’s why up until a few days ago Merseyside weren’t into really stop and account . There won’t be many at them protests but tell people what to buy , not to let their kids in their garden or to account for movements over the next few weeks you’ll deffo see more .
While I understand your point and there will be some who are overzealous, a lot of the issues come from the government saying 'X' without really discussing it.

You can't simply say one day that we expect the police to do this without consultation, training and allowing time to adapt; unfortunately, that hasn't happened.

With regards to account for movement, I wonder how the police are to enforce non-essential travel (government guidance) without making suitable enquiries?

No genuine cop will wanting to be making arrests now for a multitude of reasons, including their own safety, alongside the fact that there's the four Es to follow.

Their are guidelines and if they're not followed then there's enforcement, so if someone is being detained I'd say there's probably more to it - in most cases.

The offence itself is:

If they:
  1. fail without reasonable excuse to comply with any direction, reasonable instruction, requirement or restriction
  2. abscond, or attempt to abscond, while being removed to or kept at a place of detention or isolation
  3. knowingly provide false or misleading information in response to a requirement to provide information
  4. obstruct a person who is exercising or attempting to exercise a power
  5. fail without reasonable excuse to ensure that a child they have responsibility for complies with any direction, instruction, requirement or restriction given to or imposed on the child, or to provide such information and assistance in relation to the child as is reasonably necessary and practicable in the circumstances
If they do march tomorrow and are instructed to stop due to non-essential travel or groups larger than two, they'll be liable for arrest.

There will be more enforcement too, but if the majority of the population comply then it will be friendly and advisory rather than actual enforcement.
 
Patel is like a Bond villain
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A good website here for those who, like me, feel guilty that they are fortunate to have work and money still coming in at this very difficult time for lots of families worldwide.

 
Thing is though toast, you go for essentials but the shops are still the same in terms of what they are selling. So you go out for bread and milk but walk past something non-essential you need (for me that would be beer or wine) and you just put it in your basket. Social distancing does seem to be adhered to though.
I was supposed to buy a leg of lamb when I finished tonight.
I saw the Turkey crown and was sucked into buying that..
I'm as guilty as anyone of just buying random stuff mate.
 
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