I think the reason why the last one we had got sorted was because it mutated on itself.
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I think the reason why the last one we had got sorted was because it mutated on itself.
ForeverBlue92
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More and more medical institutes are coming out and speculating that the true infection rate of covid-19 could be much, much higher than teh confirmed cases.
Italy COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
"Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University. "
Purely on an N=1 basis there was an episode of the BBC's Coronavirus Newscast last weekend where one of the hosts got their hands on an antibody test kit which came back with a positive reading, despite him being asymptomatic.
I suspect that I am not alone in thinking that some of these speculative assessments will ultimately prove closer to the truth than the number of confirmed cases.
Saw that myself - obviously the antibody test could be junk but I do think this thing is around in the air and more of us will have had it over the last few months without even knowing / being hygienic and social distancing.
The underlying conditions aren’t rare ones
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
If there was 10s of millions infected in Italy it would be fantastic news, as it would mean the death rate is miniscule, not even at seasonal flu levels.More and more medical institutes are coming out and speculating that the true infection rate of covid-19 could be much, much higher than teh confirmed cases.
Italy COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
"Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University. "
Purely on an N=1 basis there was an episode of the BBC's Coronavirus Newscast last weekend where one of the hosts got their hands on an antibody test kit which came back with a positive reading, despite him being asymptomatic.
I suspect that I am not alone in thinking that some of these speculative assessments will ultimately prove closer to the truth than the number of confirmed cases.
Kenshin
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All the data is massively misleading. Has been for weeks now.More and more medical institutes are coming out and speculating that the true infection rate of covid-19 could be much, much higher than teh confirmed cases.
Italy COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
"Italy: the real number of COVID-19 cases in the country could be 5,000,0000 (compared to the 119,827 confirmed ones) according to a study which polled people with symptoms who have not been tested, and up to 10,000,000 or even 20,0000,000 after taking into account asymptomatic cases, according to Carlo La Vecchia, a Professor of Medical Statistics and Epidemiology at the Statale di Milano University. "
Purely on an N=1 basis there was an episode of the BBC's Coronavirus Newscast last weekend where one of the hosts got their hands on an antibody test kit which came back with a positive reading, despite him being asymptomatic.
I suspect that I am not alone in thinking that some of these speculative assessments will ultimately prove closer to the truth than the number of confirmed cases.
The number of actual cases in any country IS higher. You can't tell me that you can say X have it and the majority don't. All the ones at home feeling a little unwell right now could and couldnt have it. So that case number would be significantly higher on that regard.
We don't get the death data per age which again is very misleading. It doesn't change the represcussions of the virus in any way, a death is still an unwanted occurence in any family. What I'm trying to say is if you say 3 thousand deaths but 2900 of them are in a certain age bracket, then it shows the likely hood of death generally. We don't know which then let's the media run the worst case scenario stories each day that causes panic and fear.
If we were to test say 30 million people in the next 30 days across the country (I know that's impossible) and found that say 2 million have the virus. Then again the statistics would be more accurate. Right now we are reporting like 40000 cases and 4 thousand deaths. That's a 10% death rate for the virus which is plague type levels of death. Compare that to 2 million cases and only 4 thousands deaths , 80% for example over the age of 60, completely different perspective on what is going on.
I believe it's not what the news is but how it's presented that is the issue. Throwing huge numbers at people scares them to the point where mental health is really becoming an issue in the UK , and I'm sure elsewhere. However if you presented more accurate statistics on the likely hood of death for example then people wouldn't be so fearful.
I get the idea that scaring people makes them more likely to comply but whilst they are sat at home , they are ill mentally because of the figures being thrown at them on a daily basis.
Tea_drinker
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Plenty of people milling around in parks today. And I hear its kicking off in Southern Italy as the poor are getting fed up of being, well poor.
Blues Harp
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time for revolution mate....
canuckblue
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Actually not drinking as much since the stay-at-home order was issued here a couple of weeks ago. Might spark up a spliff on the front porch a bit later, mind.
I know I went to a street party on new years eve, been their for about an hour and right out of the blue, just lost my voice.
Everyone in the party was made up
, next two weeks felt like crap, flue like symptoms, I always have the flu jab, ( I have diabetes type 2). But a lot of people were ill, same symptoms around that time, but it cleared up for me.
A few weeks later, someone came in work, lost his voice and gave me it back, but not as bad this time.
Just thought it was flue, thought nothing of it really until these rumours the last few weeks came out about it being here earlier than first thought and loads more infected than broadcast. Who knows really ?
Everyone in the party was made up
, next two weeks felt like crap, flue like symptoms, I always have the flu jab, ( I have diabetes type 2). But a lot of people were ill, same symptoms around that time, but it cleared up for me.A few weeks later, someone came in work, lost his voice and gave me it back, but not as bad this time.
Just thought it was flue, thought nothing of it really until these rumours the last few weeks came out about it being here earlier than first thought and loads more infected than broadcast. Who knows really ?
canuckblue
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I know I went to a street party on new years eve, been their for about an hour and right out of the blue, just lost my voice.
Everyone in the party was made up
A few weeks later, someone came in work, lost his voice and gave me it back, but not as bad this time.
Just thought it was flue, thought nothing of it really until these rumours the last few weeks came out about it being here earlier than first thought and loads more infected than broadcast. Who knows really ?
No one, really. Just like no one knows for sure how many people have been ill and recovered without knowing it was this virus. Like no one knows for sure how many people are currently asymptomatic. All you can do is miniminze the chances of getting it yourself and in doing so help lessen its spread.
I know I went to a street party on new years eve, been their for about an hour and right out of the blue, just lost my voice.
Everyone in the party was made up
A few weeks later, someone came in work, lost his voice and gave me it back, but not as bad this time.
Just thought it was flue, thought nothing of it really until these rumours the last few weeks came out about it being here earlier than first thought and loads more infected than broadcast. Who knows really ?
This is the, weather is boss, feeling good thread mate..
Ffs you made me look. lol
, I was in the wrong thread.
Incidentally, in Czech, they seem to be testing people who show any symptoms, plus their family, which perhaps explains why around 5% of tests are coming back positive.
It also means their cases stat is slightly more accurate than here, as we only test those admitted to hospital, hence why the mortality rate seems OK in Czech.
The folly of comparing countries that don't measure like with like.
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