Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Tipp blue]

As it’s a logarithmic scale I’m not quite sure how you can call that at this point tbh.....

Because logarithmic is the best graph show the exponential rate. Obviously from the graph Irish cases are no longer rising at an exponential rate, it did from 10 to 100 and 100 to 1000 the next factor of 10 to 10000 is not being reached as quickly as the previous 2 thus proving that we've stopped the exponential rise in numbers. The total numbers are rising but each day the rise is becoming less of a % of the total confirm cases, that's what they were on about when they told us they need to flatten the curve.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I read an article this morning that suggested that the daily mortality rate will go up for the duration of this, but the yearly rate will not change much and possibly go down, because it's reckoned that 60% of those that die from covid 19 will likely have died within 6 months regardless, so obviously a higher percentage over 12 months, the explanation of the yearly death rate going down was given as the social distancing putting an early end to flu season, people not getting into fatal car crashes, work place fatalities etc, those combined with those who got Covid 19 that would likely have have died from their underlying condition anyway will see the actual mortality rate not change much.

Not really the point... This has been mentioned many times, it's not necessarily about who dies from a direct cause of COVID19. It's who dies unnecessarily because of COVID19. Many people will die many years before their time because of the strain COVID19 is putting on services. I swear blind some of you are literally one step away from advocating letting people die gulping for air as they drown in thier own lung fluid.

 

[RAFUH]

They were but under pressure from congress the tests are now free, As far as I am aware any treatment though still an individuals responsibility - @RAFUH you go any more info?

A few insurers are reportedly waving costs of treatment - although my guess is there are a lot of caveats. Aetna for example is only waving "admission costs" - that could mean they pay for the room and physician costs, but not medication/vent costs, or maybe just the room.

https://www.npr.org/sections/health...s-waive-costs-to-patients-for-covid-19-treatm


Medicare hasn't waved anything I am aware of so our elderly patients would be stuck with a $1500 (something around there) deductible.
I think you get the first 60 days (after deductible) for free, but then you start paying, but no idea how much.

Lets also not forget the post hospital rehab all these folks will need. You don't just get up and go after a few weeks in medically induced coma while on a vent. You don't get many free days of skilled nursing/rehab for free (3 weeks I think)

 

[mahermi1]

Because logarithmic is the best graph show the exponential rate. Obviously from the graph Irish cases are no longer rising at an exponential rate, it did from 10 to 100 and 100 to 1000 the next factor of 10 to 10000 is not being reached as quickly as the previous 2 thus proving that we've stopped the exponential rise in numbers. The total numbers are rising but each day the rise is becoming less of a % of the total confirm cases, that's what they were on about when they told us they need to flatten the curve.

So just stay in then ?

 

[RAFUH]

I wouldn't bother looking too much into stats from the US health care, over there it's not about who's sickest but who the hospital can make the most money from, so you are going to have alot of people over there who are quite sick but have stellar insurance the hospitals will take those in before taking in a sicker person with underlying conditions who has not so good insurance or no insurance.

It is illegal to turn away patients from a hospital due to ability to pay/type insurance. Reagan signed that law in the 80s.

Not saying it never happens, albeit subtly, but a hospital found to do this would lose their status with CMS meaning they wouldn't be paid by Medicare/Medicaid and no hospital can survive that.

 

[RAFUH]

You have to pay for urgent care???

And I have watched every Scrubs at least twice.

There's a case in California of a 17 year old kid - went to an urgent care clinic (not hospital or A&D). Was turned away (lack of insurance/inability to pay) told to go to ER at hospital. He had a MI and died driving himself there.

 

[Tipp blue]

So just stay in then ?

Correct

 

[Tipp blue]

It is illegal to turn away patients from a hospital due to ability to pay/type insurance. Reagan signed that law in the 80s.

Not saying it never happens, albeit subtly, but a hospital found to do this would lose their status with CMS meaning they wouldn't be paid by Medicare/Medicaid and no hospital can survive that.

17-year-old dies of coronavirus, was turned away for lacking insurance

A Los Angeles teen — who tested positive for the coronavirus — died of septic shock after being turned away from an urgent care facility because he didn’t have health insurance. While the 17-…

www.google.com

 

[RAFUH]

17-year-old dies of coronavirus, was turned away for lacking insurance

A Los Angeles teen — who tested positive for the coronavirus — died of septic shock after being turned away from an urgent care facility because he didn’t have health insurance. While the 17-…

www.google.com

I mentioned that case. He was not turned away from a hospital or ER, but a urgent care clinic. Totally different types of facilities in the US.

 

[riddick]

@LinekersLegs

If/when Merica starts testing, you wont get charged for that, surely?

BWAAAAAHHHAAAAHAHAAAHAA! This is 'MURICA! Of COURSE we'll get charged for it!

 

[Amw79]

BWAAAAAHHHAAAAHAHAAAHAA! This is 'MURICA! Of COURSE we'll get charged for it!

Will you have to tip too?

 

[COYBL25]

Until you can tell us who should replace whom we don’t really have an option .......

Look no further.

 

[peteblue]

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Look no further.

Is he Labour or LibDem ?.......

 

[COYBL25]

Is he Labour or LibDem ?.......

Rainbow coalition

 

[COYBL25]