Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Am I being cynical in thinking that it seems like it's just a slightly different strand of, well, common cold & flu?
 
Anyway, I'll be starting my live blog of my 14 days in isolation from Sunday.

I'll be climbing up the walls and all sorts within two days.
 
So, if you are male, over 60, with a cardiac condition then you are toast. Now being male, over 60 and having had a triple by-pass I should really be saying my goodbyes to you all, but I really can’t be bothered worrying about it...But, if I don’t post for a while you will know that it got me...it‘s been a pleasure for you to have known me......
Can I have all your toilet rolls?
 
The flu is mainly spread by coughing, as the NHS website suggests coronavirus is also. It too mainly affects the elderly (in terms of mortality at least), and yet while people could quite probably have better hygiene and consideration when coming to work when unwell, we don't ask for public events to be shut down for it or accuse other people of being toe rags for killing off the elderly.

Don't cough in people's faces, wash your hands well, and if you feel unwell, don't go out, seems to be advice you should apply to the flu as much as you should this virus. To use words like nauseating seems in keeping with the general hysteria this situation is creating.
You, again, missed the point. I'm not making a clinical argument, I;m making a moral one. In short: there is some horrendous sense of one-upmanship to the reaction of some younger people on this issue: "Oh, it hardly hits my age group; it's an elderly thing. I'll just keep an eye on the deaths percentage for my age group".

It's disgusting and underlines to me that these are the type of people that "the free market" ideologues have created in the last 30 years. The devil's spawn.
 
You, again, missed the point. I'm not making a clinical argument, I;m making a moral one. In short: there is some horrendous sense of one-upmanship to the reaction of some younger people on this issue: "Oh, it hardly hits my age group; it's an elderly thing. I'll just keep an eye on the deaths percentage for my age group".

It's disgusting and underlines to me that these are the type of people that "the free market" ideologues have created in the last 30 years. The devil's spawn.
The ironic thing is that attitude also misses the impact it will have on everyone if healthcare is overloaded and how many of even under 60s need supportive care.

The first US case was a 35year old who recovered. But he needed hospitalization, oxygen and antivirals to achieve that recovery https://trib.al/74r2YSM. If there are lots of over 60s in beds on oxygen then that is one less bed available for the 35 year old if he happens to need it. You could argue that he probably would have survived anyway but likely to have been far more unpleasant process. Given the histrionics of those with mild cases of “man-flu”, viral pneumonia is probably best avoided even if entirely survivable.

Enlightened self interest is as valid a reason as concern for those less healthy in your community to do basic things like personal hygiene and avoiding others when sick.
 
The ironic thing is that attitude also misses the impact it will have on everyone if healthcare is overloaded and how many of even under 60s need supportive care.

The first US case was a 35year old who recovered. But he needed hospitalization, oxygen and antivirals to achieve that recovery https://trib.al/74r2YSM. If there are lots of over 60s in beds on oxygen then that is one less bed available for the 35 year old if he happens to need it. You could argue that he probably would have survived anyway but likely to have been far more unpleasant.

Enlightened self interest is as valid a reason as concern for those less healthy in your community to do basic things like personal hygiene and avoiding others when sick.
Enlightened is not a word I'd use to describe the people I'm referring to.

They are self-centred survivalists who dont pause to look around, they're so engrossed in their own worlds. I dont know why, most of them are boring nobheads who'd be no loss to anyone.
 
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