Contracts for players 30 or over

[Pblueman]

Looking through the threads I think bar a few exceptions most people are delighted he's back. I think the issue with Everton is many supporters carry or try to carry out a micro analysis of deals because many fans are so much more aware of our own financial situation than the supporters of other clubs.

I think its more to do with the fact that Everton fans have been moaning for years so even when something good happens they have to dissect it to find somethiing to moan about. FFS THIS IS GOOD NEWS CHEER THE HELL UP!!!

 

[Elong]

Can we not just be happy he is back !?!

I dont think any other fans are like us.

We moan we aint signed anyone, then when we do, we moan its not quite right, in some way.

I'm stoked Pienaar is back mate, but that wasn't my argument like.

 

[Pabbers]

Looking through the threads I think bar a few exceptions most people are delighted he's back, I certainly am and in my post I wasn't being negative I jut tried to say why I thought it might be a 4 year deal. I think the issue with Everton is many supporters carry or try to carry out a micro analysis of deals because many fans are so much more aware of our own financial situation than the supporters of other clubs.

You may be right mate.

I'm VERY happy he is back, £4.5 million fee and 4 year deal I dont care about right now, what is an absolute nailed on FACT, he makes everton a better team, and not just by a bit, we are almost a different team with what he add to us.

I even had a kopite laugh at the fee we paid......a kopite....Joe Allen £15 milion and Jordon Henderson £18 Million kopite!!!!

Glass is very much half full gents !

 

[tommye]

moaners gonna moan. (hi Davek )
It's the everton way.

 

[Elong]

You may be right mate.

I'm VERY happy he is back, £4.5 million fee and 4 year deal I dont care about right now, what is an absolute nailed on FACT, he makes everton a better team, and not just by a bit, we are almost a different team with what he add to us.

I even had a kopite laugh at the fee we paid......a kopite....Joe Allen £15 milion and Jordon Henderson £18 Million kopite!!!!

Glass is very much half full gents !

I think I speak for Chico here by saying I love you Pabbers x COYB

 

[Pabbers]

I think I speak for Chico here by saying I love you Pabbers x COYB

Aww, I feel the love.....and I feel a hand on my arse!!!

 

[Blackwatch1878]

 

[BlueWeasel]

Gotta laugh though at how made up we all are at signing a player who was already ours not so long ago! That's not to say i'm not pleased because I am btw.

 

[Azzurri]

Moyes had always said that he wanted to make Everton with a younger team of players; young and homegrown.

Well, that philosophy is out the window and we're now into the make do and mend, arse end of his career at Everton. The feller has no coherent plan other than to go with the flow of selling players to appease banks and surrounding himself with loyal followers. It's like a retread of Smith's 'last days in the bunker' period of a decade ago. It's old and stale, and its visionless and desperate.

Lol. Dave you so edgy.

 

[Summerskin]

Losing at home to QPR on the opening day of the season before finding out that Phil Neville had signed an extension was surely the darkest day in this clubs recent history?

Skin-crawlingly bad.

 

[Pblueman]

Finding out Duncan had been sold behind the managers back was the darkest day for me and made me realise just what a bunch of c**ts the board were. board may have changed a bit but still bunch of c**ts

 

[njligernj]

Why is everyone so hung up on fecking age??? if your good enough, fit enough, you'll do. Pienaar can have a contract for as long as he is able to do the job or someone better comes along. End of

Agreed. I honestly didn't even think it was an issue (but obviously everything has to become an issue). I think the only way to handle the situation is a case-by-case basis. Having a hard and fast rule based on age (either way) is not smart. As for it being a risk? Signing an unproven 18 year old is a risk. Signing a player from another team for 10m is a risk. It's all risk. You manage the risk as best you can. If you created a chart of all the risks in signing a player, Pienaar would likely have less risks associated than almost any other player (even accounting for age).

 

[Neiler]

I think its a little easy to say give anyone over 30 a one year rolling contract, if that was the case Cahill could have walked for free as could Distin and Neville when there was interest in them. It may be fine for the likes of Utd and Chelsea but we are in a position were the squad struggles to make up 25 first teamers and every penny needs to be counted - there is nothing to say they cant be sold during their contract ala Cahill.

 

[Rook]

It depends on how many miles the players have on them and what kind of players they are. Players reliant on pace you don't want to sign to long contracts. However big strikers peak around age 30. Many American players hoofed it in MLS for awhile where they didn't play that many matches/season and are able to sit out of matches with little injuries because the only important matches are in the playoffs so they are better suited to play well into their 30s.

 

[Phyllis Stein]

It depends on how many miles the players have on them and what kind of players they are. Players reliant on pace you don't want to sign to long contracts. However big strikers peak around age 30. Many American players hoofed it in MLS for awhile where they didn't play that many matches/season and are able to sit out of matches with little injuries because the only important matches are in the playoffs so they are better suited to play well into their 30s.

Was thinking similar myself, the way I read the Pienaar situation is
- He had all the power and could push for a lengthy contract because he knew Moyes wanted him badly and his alternative was either sitting getting paid at Spurs or a similar move elsewhere for games. For both sides a bit of give and take.
- Moyes was prepared to overlook his stance on signing a player 30 or over because Pienaar has few miles on the clock because of being frozen out at Dortmund for over a season and then again sitting on his ass at Spurs. I like to think having missed out on being competitively kicked for a couple of seasons or more it will mean time added to his career.
- With the way contracts have been thrown at Neville, Cahill, Arteta, Distin, Moyes' supposed attitude to latter career contracts wasnt exactly built on foundations of granite.

We just have to hope South Africa continue to fail to qualify for the ACN.