CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[Stend]

Just before the goal a ball was played into our box, one of our players got possession and instead of knocking it over the top for mirralas to chase he just smashed it out of play. Pure panic. Anyone notice who it was.?

Gibson

 

[Goat]

The sub isn't really the big deal in itself. It's a sympton of the way we sat back rather then tried to keep the ball and take the sting out of the game. That's what invited the sequence of corners that led to the goal.

Look we get another 500k+, it was the righ sub.

 

[Chang Elephant]

Just before the goal a ball was played into our box, one of our players got possession and instead of knocking it over the top for mirralas to chase he just smashed it out of play. Pure panic. Anyone notice who it was.?

If it actually reached touch it won't have been Osman

 

[kenada_blue]

Yeh without bringing duffy on, we had a striker occupying their back four. Instead we threw more bodies into our box and crowded our keeper out even more. Which led to a goal. Poor substitution imo.

We should have been looking to play the clock down with possession rather than inviting it.

Example of that was today with Blackburn at the Emirates. Swaped a striker for a striker with 10 minutes left at 1.0 up.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Hes never nailed anythin in his life.

Are you saying taht if Jela was still on they wouldnt have thrown the kitchen sink at us in the 4th minute of injury time?

Silly boy.

Yeah, its not like he took Jelavic off for Duffy at 75 mins, pretty sure we were in injury time and they had already started throwing long balls into our box aimed at Smith before Duffy came on.

 

[Tubey]

The sub isn't really the big deal in itself. It's a sympton of the way we sat back rather then tried to keep the ball and take the sting out of the game. That's what invited the sequence of corners that led to the goal.

Correct.

A competent manager would have brought on an extra midfielder and harried the ball so that they didn't have time to play the "hail Mary" into the box. You'd then have your defenders pick up their men and look for the second ball.

Instead, Moyes banked everyone behind the ball and instructed the players to hoof clear. Which is what a bog standard Conference manager would do.

And yes, I'm calling Moyes tactically incompetent. Because he is, and has proven that to be the case over and over and over again.

 

[Chang Elephant]

And yes, I'm calling Moyes tactically incompetent. Because he is, and has proven that to be the case over and over and over again.

Good shot old boy

 

[MACCA75]

Correct.

A competent manager would have brought on an extra midfielder and harried the ball so that they didn't have time to play the "hail Mary" into the box. You'd then have your defenders pick up their men and look for the second ball.

Instead, Moyes banked everyone behind the ball and instructed the players to hoof clear. Which is what a bog standard Conference manager would do.

And yes, I'm calling Moyes tactically incompetent. Because he is, and has proven that to be the case over and over and over again.

I just genuinely dont see how Moyes can be called tactically incompetent. I dont like some of his subs, and i dont like the way we defend corners with 11 men, but honestly, if he was tactically incompetent then we wouldnt be in the top 6, and wouldnt have been anywhere near it for the last ten years. Unless you think we have an astonishing collection of brilliant individuals who Moyes is somehow holding back? That's not the case though is it - infact there are only a small handful of players who you would say are actually having 'a good season'. On the other hand, Howard, Neville, Heitinga,Naismith and Jelavic have been mediocre to downright poor and yet we have been second best in a game maybe 2/3 times all season.

 

[Azzurri]

Correct.

A competent manager would have brought on an extra midfielder and harried the ball so that they didn't have time to play the "hail Mary" into the box. You'd then have your defenders pick up their men and look for the second ball.

Instead, Moyes banked everyone behind the ball and instructed the players to hoof clear. Which is what a bog standard Conference manager would do.

And yes, I'm calling Moyes tactically incompetent. Because he is, and has proven that to be the case over and over and over again.

Doesn't take that long.

 

[Tubey]

Doesn't take that long.

So you're saying you can't close down a man near the halfway line using midfielders, and that it wouldn't result in more difficulty for the opposition to press forward in numbers?

I'll give you an obvious example. If you press the man, he puts in a harried ball towards the box at best, the Premier League standard defenders attach to a man, once the ball is in flight they know whether their man is under it or not. If they are, the hassle him and try to win the first ball. If not, they track the runner and watch for the second ball. If you win possession, you have players automatically in advanced positions to counter, so if the opposition has overcommitted then you have a chance of running the ball and pinning them back in their half.

If you don't hassle near the half way line, it becomes a game of attack vs. defence and a conceded goal is inevitable unless you're very lucky.

What Moyes did in the last 10 minutes was invite the equaliser - personified by the Duffy sub late on.

 

[Tubey]

I just genuinely dont see how Moyes can be called tactically incompetent. I dont like some of his subs, and i dont like the way we defend corners with 11 men, but honestly, if he was tactically incompetent then we wouldnt be in the top 6, and wouldnt have been anywhere near it for the last ten years. Unless you think we have an astonishing collection of brilliant individuals who Moyes is somehow holding back? That's not the case though is it - infact there are only a small handful of players who you would say are actually having 'a good season'. On the other hand, Howard, Neville, Heitinga,Naismith and Jelavic have been mediocre to downright poor and yet we have been second best in a game maybe 2/3 times all season.

I think Moyes is a good motivator and a genius in identifying player potential in the transfer market, but tactically he's one of the worst I've ever seen. You'd have to be a blind not to see it, and it's been that way since he came to the club.

We're in the top six as he identified very good players for good prices, and ultimately football isn't rocket science - good players will play good football, but the very best managers know how to spot strengths and weaknesses mid-game and adjust accordingly. I can count on one hand the amount of times Moyes has done that over the last 10 years.

 

[evilwebby]

Our midfield were poor and were bypassed all game, both going forward and defending. You have to ask why we couldn't get the ball out of our half in the last 5 mins and kept defending on the 6yd line. An equaliser always looked likely. All in all, it was just a very poor performance.

I can see the replay going to penalties, I really can.

 

[toffeejack]

Look we get another 500k+, it was the righ sub.

haha the awkward moment when we realise the money is just as useful to us than a league 1 team

 

[Neiler]

Roberto Martinez, is the top target should Davey go according to the rags this morning.

 

[Eggs]

..........my view is that the only thing to take us to the next level is investment. Fans become frustrated by the stagnace of being in the same league position and start to question the manager. A change will not see an improvement. At best we will remain as is, but more likely we will start to fall.
For those of you welcoming the news that Moyes might move on, I remind you of the not too distant past and the image of Brian Labone having to spend the last 15mins of a game walking along Goodison Rd because he couldn't stand the pressure and thought that his beloved Blues could be relegated. I genuinely feel our position is that precarious and the key to us avoiding that situation is keeping David Moyes.