CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

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He has a point. Moyes is thoughtless to the damage done by taking his stand on waiting until the summer. Even if he does re-sign he's storing up bad blood that will erupt if we suffer any nosedive in the near future. I understand from his perspective why he's doing it and that having no contract to buyout will find favour with a club interested in him, but his legacy is going to be tarnished through it. Of course he'd argue that depriving Everton of a buyout fee is dwarfed by the cash he's brought into the club, but supporters never think like that. It's a matter of loyalty and he's losing a credibility battle on that front with every passing day.

In fairness though mate if did sign a contract and then upped and left there would be more outrage than if he didn't sign at all.
Its's a lose/lose scenario from his POV.

IMO he's already told the board/Billo that he won't be signing and is getting a bit of practice in for his period doing media work while he awaits the 'right offer' to come along.

 

[electricblue]

I think Moyes will have made his position clear to the board prior to January... back me and I will sign, don't back me and you risk losing me. Had he been backed, I believe he would have signed already.

Moyes was quoted as saying "I've got a grin on my face" about a day before the Leroy Fer 'bid' was made public, but the smile had long gone once our board backed out of the deal due to Everton not being in a position to sign players who might get injured in the future.

I honestly don't blame Moyes for his current stance. He may well get a top wage, but it's at the expense of dealing with a board who are FULL OF SHYIT! At the very least I would want to see the board put their money where their mouth is in the Summer, like they were expected/required to do in January, but failed to do so.

I can understand Moyes not wanting to put up with another 5 years of Kenwright's bull****. 65k a week is very good compensation, but Moyes didn't come in to football management just for the money, and I think he could get better support elsewhere.

People will laugh, but if Moyes was at somewhere like Newcastle (a place where money is put forward even if it has been spent badly over the years) he would have broken into the Champions League YEARS AGO. He'd have had Stoke doing a lot better than what they are as well.

Wouldn't disagree with any of that.

 

[Brennan]

We'll win the FA Cup, Moyes will go somewhere else, we'll get Steve Bruce and be playing Notts County on a Friday night within three seasons.

YOU WOZ WARNED

 

[Allezfan]

We'll win the FA Cup, Moyes will go somewhere else, we'll get Steve Bruce and be playing Notts County on a Friday night within three seasons.

YOU WOZ WARNED

Don't be stupid, anyone who can keep wigan in the league will win the CL at everton. Bruce will rock it here.

 

[Goat]

Im watching all of you.

 

[electricblue]

Don't be stupid, anyone who can keep wigan in the league will win the CL at everton. Bruce will rock it here.

Martinez ?

 

[Allezfan]

Martinez ?

That was very much who that sarcastic dig was aimed at, yes.

 

[steken1]

Moyes was saying Martinez would be a shrewd appointment.

This must make Goat feel like a mixed race kid in pre-riot toxteth.

 

[sheeds]

Do we know Moyes isn't gone for sure and they just think (rightly or wrongly) this "will he or won't he" stuff is better for morale than "he's off!"?

Do we know Moyes didn't give the board an ultimatum (money for transfers which doesn't come from selling) which they refused to meet?

TBF there is a bit of a double standard here.

We want Moyes to be ambitious and confident with Everton; we laugh at him for being ambitious and confident enough to think he could manage Chelsea or Man U.

We want Moyes to hold the board accountable and demand investment; we criticize him for not signing up for another ten years of zero net spend.

While we speculate it's all about Arsenal or Chelsea or whomever ... how do we know he isn't saying "if you could give me 10m a year to spend (in addition to sell to buy money) you know I'd stay?"

That's what we (well a lot of us anyway) have wanted him to do for years. If he'd done that I don't think it would come out now (maybe later) because Moyes doesn't typically operate that way and he knows it would hurt this season and well as our new manager hunt (although I'm aware lots of people here would think outing BK was the right thing to do).

All speculation I know but that's kind of my point ... it's as much speculation as anything else in this thread. The most popular theory seems to be he's had an offer and he's considering other options. Maybe there was no offer because the board couldn't meet his terms.

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We don't know mate and as you say it's a theory just like many others but its also a theory that appears at odds with moyes' previous actions and comments . The last time moyes prevaricated over a contract (which I seem to recall damaged our on field performance) it wasn't spending power or ambition that persuaded him to stay it was money plain and simple.

Moyes has had opportunities to mention ambition or spending and even if he didn't want to be critical of the board he did nothing other than give his whole hearted support again not exactly the actions of someone fighting for the spending to finance a surge up the league more somebody waiting for a better offer .

I think moyes has done well and although I'm nowhere near a dedicated in my support as many seem to be I've been far from wanting to drive him out. However his behaviour recently in coyly batting his eyelashes like some kind of brass touting for business demans both himself but more importantly to me our club.

I've said it before I understand why moyes wants a chance to look into moving on and to him he's understandably the priority but for me this has the serious prospect of damaging everton in either the long or the short term.

 

[LITLEJOE]

dont blame moyes, its bills fault

 

[ijjysmith]

dont blame moyes, its bills fault

I'll blame who I want thanks.

 

[Goat]

Moyes was saying Martinez would be a shrewd appointment.

This must make Goat feel like a mixed race kid in pre-riot toxteth.

Im gonna need a link.

 

[LITLEJOE]

I'll blame who I want thanks.

kopite

 

[ijjysmith]

kopite

Brilliant.

 

[Goat]