So now he's not only being praised for games someone else won, he's getting praised for games he didn't win but might have hypothetically won in another timeline?
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So now he's not only being praised for games someone else won, he's getting praised for games he didn't win but might have hypothetically won in another timeline?
No ? He's getting praised for enforcing a style of play on Swansea which has served them well for the past few years and has contributed massively to them being so successful. I don't see why you have such an issue with that when it's widely accepted, particularly by Swansea fans (who know much more about it than either of us).
You said he 'couldn't' win the games to get them promoted to the Championship which isn't really fair. It's a big step up going from League One to the Championship, never mind then trying to get promoted again. An 8th place finish was impressive and they won 16 games under him, only losing 10.
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Brennan - 4/7
AF - 6/4
Tubey - 10/1
( Done my money last night FFS.. lets go ! )
nigelcoyb
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in truth mate there aren't a lot of options - as the betting shows
My view is he promises something different than what we've endured this decade - now whether that's a winner or loser is the question. I'm quite prepared to take the gamble.
Roztitute
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Whoever wins, we lose.
Because it essentially collates winning and passing as the same, which is what we mock Rogers for.
Martinez got them passing, later managers got them winning. Why is the former viewed as the greater achievment? There's a long long list of passing teams who struggled at the prem level (mowbrays west brom and coyles burnley as two examples). Passing isn't an automatic win code, even though I think it's the most efficient style. The accomplishment is putting a team out and getting them to win a game, whatever the style. Swansea hire the wrong managers, they don;t get out of the championship and martinez' great foudnations don't get talked up. His reputation is reliant on other men doing good work which he has no involvement in.
There's plenty of swansea fans who think martinez would never have gotten them promoted, btw, a quick look on their forums tells me that.
Zip it Rozzleberry
In the second and third flights.
The greater accomplishments were later, surely you can recognise that?
Nobody is arguing about accomplishments though.
You clearly have a massive issue with Martinez, he employed a play style and staff mentality at Swansea which has stuck with the club to this day, without him they'd probably still be in League One.
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Oh come on.
I laughed as well.
By the way, none of Martinez backroom staff are still there and only three players he bought, two of whom don't start much any more.
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