CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

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It's all about timing like any manager appointment or at least fans thoughts will be , it doesn't make it right but people focus on the 'rising star' . I've said it before coyle was in the spurs short list (when they thought Harry might leave ) and was subject of a intent campaign backing him for arsenal but got relegated and now isn't on any list. Rodgers got the bullet from reading and wa struggling but has a half decent season with Swansea and gets the RS whilst lambert was really highly rated but has massively under performed at villa. So now it's lambert , then it might be malky McKay or whoever.

Good post Sheeds, flavour of the month managers do seem difficult to ignore. Who would be top of your list?

 

[TheFinnFan]

Good post Sheeds, flavour of the month managers do seem difficult to ignore. Who would be top of your list?

yeah sheeds i would like to c your wishlist too

 

[Little Ralphy]

yeah...no doubt he was oficially on a scouting trip...but it just got me thinking...like why wouldnt he sign a new contract? its been proven over and over again that it affects the team when a managers future is uncertain..Harry at spurs last year being the prime example. so by not signing a new contract now and ending the speculation he is harming the teams chances of finishing 4th or winning the cup...why would he do that unless he had something else in the pipelin??!!

Schalke?

 

[kenada_blue]

*makes Martinez In banner*

 

[Joao Moutinho]

Schalke?

schalke would be a sideway step

 

[Allezfan]

schalke would be a sideway step

To a league where CL places and cups are less locked in to a small elite, though.

Which is the attraction to a sideways step to the other big european leagues. (The downside is less money, so lower wages, and less spotlight. Which is why midlevel continental sides often lose their players and managers to midlevel prem sides.)

 

[D410]

It's all about timing like any manager appointment or at least fans thoughts will be , it doesn't make it right but people focus on the 'rising star' . I've said it before coyle was in the spurs short list (when they thought Harry might leave ) and was subject of a intent campaign backing him for arsenal but got relegated and now isn't on any list. Rodgers got the bullet from reading and wa struggling but has a half decent season with Swansea and gets the RS whilst lambert was really highly rated but has massively under performed at villa. So now it's lambert , then it might be malky McKay or whoever.

Spot on sheeds.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

Schalke?

Bayern president Uli Hoeness has said he does not expect coach Jupp Heynckes to move to Schalke after he leaves Munich, where he will be replaced by Pep Guardiola, at the end of the season. "This is probably an April Fool's joke," Hoeness said of the rumours first circulated by Bild newspaper.
Full story: Suddeutsche Zeitung (external)

Sounds like there's talk in Germany of Jupp Heynckes going to Shalke

 

[ijjysmith]

It would feel a bit weird with a different Everton manager wouldn't it?

 

[TheFinnFan]

It would feel a bit weird with a different Everton manager wouldn't it?

it surely would mate

 

[Little Ralphy]

It's all about timing like any manager appointment or at least fans thoughts will be , it doesn't make it right but people focus on the 'rising star' . I've said it before coyle was in the spurs short list (when they thought Harry might leave ) and was subject of a intent campaign backing him for arsenal but got relegated and now isn't on any list. Rodgers got the bullet from reading and wa struggling but has a half decent season with Swansea and gets the RS whilst lambert was really highly rated but has massively under performed at villa. So now it's lambert , then it might be malky McKay or whoever.

I've seen you post similar before and I agree with the post. The thing which maybe elevates Laudrup from the other managers you mentioned though, is the fact he was a World Class player who won many things at some of the World's top clubs. A manager like that will command more immediate respect than someone like McKay or Moyes will at the top level. Hence why it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up at Chelsea (should they not get Mourinho).

Lambert has possibly made a poor career choice with Villa. Did Martinez do the right thing, turning that job down and waiting for a better opportunity. I think it was Ferguson who told Mclaren, to 'choose a chairman rather than a club'. Because that way you have time to put across your own ideas. Perhaps Lambert has those guarantees from Lerner, but Villa were in a mess last Summer to be fair.

 

[sheeds]

Good post Sheeds, flavour of the month managers do seem difficult to ignore. Who would be top of your list?

What do I know mate out of Martinez , Rodgers & lambert I liked lambert and he's not exactly setting the world alight although he's working under a lot of restrictions wages wise that are still relatively in house .

Not even a season in laudrup looks a prospect and I quite like poyet and his style to be honest . I don't rate Martinez but Iive hear people well connected at Wigan be less than complimentary about him , surprisingly I suppose. If he wasn't an ex RS I'm told hypia is massively highly rated but I'd be amazed if we went abroad as a club .

I think it's just so difficult like I say it's timing , Derek Mcinnes last year was being talked of as the most innovative and talented coach around and less than a year later he's had the bullet from Bristol and I hear similar stuff about Steve Clarke but again it seems way to early to judge.

I think we underestimate the pull the club will have given the quality of the squad , our league standing & wages available however given the success of moyes I think kenwright would look at a talented young comer although when moyes was close to leaving last time Hughes was in the list (he was disillusioned at city by the Thai cowboy and the porential huge financial issues there ).

All that basically says I have absolutely no idea so I'll be waiting to see what happens and whose the flavour of the monthly moyes moves on.

 

[Allezfan]

What do I know mate out of Martinez , Rodgers & lambert I liked lambert and he's not exactly setting the world alight although he's working under a lot of restrictions wages wise that are still relatively in house .

Not even a season in laudrup looks a prospect and I quite like poyet and his style to be honest . I don't rate Martinez but Iive hear people well connected at Wigan be less than complimentary about him , surprisingly I suppose. If he wasn't an ex RS I'm told hypia is massively highly rated but I'd be amazed if we went abroad as a club .

I think it's just so difficult like I say it's timing , Derek Mcinnes last year was being talked of as the most innovative and talented coach around and less than a year later he's had the bullet from Bristol and I hear similar stuff about Steve Clarke but again it seems way to early to judge.

I think we underestimate the pull the club will have given the quality of the squad , our league standing & wages available however given the success of moyes I think kenwright would look at a talented young comer although when moyes was close to leaving last time Hughes was in the list (he was disillusioned at city by the Thai cowboy and the porential huge financial issues there ).

All that basically says I have absolutely no idea so I'll be waiting to see what happens and whose the flavour of the monthly moyes moves on.

Gutting, that.

 

[ijjysmith]

What do I know mate out of Martinez , Rodgers & lambert I liked lambert and he's not exactly setting the world alight although he's working under a lot of restrictions wages wise that are still relatively in house .

Not even a season in laudrup looks a prospect and I quite like poyet and his style to be honest . I don't rate Martinez but Iive hear people well connected at Wigan be less than complimentary about him , surprisingly I suppose. If he wasn't an ex RS I'm told hypia is massively highly rated but I'd be amazed if we went abroad as a club .

I think it's just so difficult like I say it's timing , Derek Mcinnes last year was being talked of as the most innovative and talented coach around and less than a year later he's had the bullet from Bristol and I hear similar stuff about Steve Clarke but again it seems way to early to judge.

I think we underestimate the pull the club will have given the quality of the squad , our league standing & wages available however given the success of moyes I think kenwright would look at a talented young comer although when moyes was close to leaving last time Hughes was in the list (he was disillusioned at city by the Thai cowboy and the porential huge financial issues there ).

All that basically says I have absolutely no idea so I'll be waiting to see what happens and whose the flavour of the monthly moyes moves on.

Sheeds, what's your gut feeling with Moyes?

 

[sheeds]

I've seen you post similar before and I agree with the post. The thing which maybe elevates Laudrup from the other managers you mentioned though, is the fact he was a World Class player who won many things at some of the World's top clubs. A manager like that will command more immediate respect than someone like McKay or Moyes will at the top level. Hence why it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up at Chelsea (should they not get Mourinho).

Lambert has possibly made a poor career choice with Villa. Did Martinez do the right thing, turning that job down and waiting for a better opportunity. I think it was Ferguson who told Mclaren, to 'choose a chairman rather than a club'. Because that way you have time to put across your own ideas. Perhaps Lambert has those guarantees from Lerner, but Villa were in a mess last Summer to be fair.

Sorry mate yeah it's one of my regularly posted opinions but I do think it's accurate .

By the way I think that's a very decent post , I'm not sure about Martinez's decision as I'm not convinced he's just not bottled it. I'm told he told the RS last summer to make a decision on Dalglish because villa wanted him then 'ummed & ahhed ' and at the last minute even batted his eyelashes at villa again before disappearing again.

Laudrup's playing history and his general demeanour plus later face it a potential trophy in his first season certainly pushes him forward and for all my opinion of Martinez if they get passed us (or Oldham ) and make the final he'll almost certainly by flying up short lists .

I'll say it again look at moyes cv before he came here , look at the cv's of an array of managers available at that time and how considerably more 'qualified' they seem than moyes. So there has to be a huge element of good fortune in there .