CONFIRMED: Moyes Leaving - All Reaction Here

[Timak]

A new stadium isn't even worth thinking about at the moment. As you've rightly said, building/re-developing is vital to Everton's future, and so it's imperative that Bill Kenwright and his mates have absolutely nothing to do with it. We'd just end up in a similar situation to Valencia.

Indeed the lack of vision is frightening. In the brief KEIOC period it became clear just how little the club knew about the Kirkby project. They just wanted someone else to do it for them.

However I think people overestimate how much difference a new stadium would make to our ability to compete.

Put it this way if we were given for free, and filled, a 70k stadium every week at current prices and sold 100 exec boxes at £50k a season we'd be £25m a year better off.

That would be enough to put us roughly level with Aston Villa in how much we could pay in wages. We'd still be £50m+ away from the current leading clubs.

 

[Jags..class]

We miss the boat with Kirkby with a new staduim.

 

[sheeds]

We miss the boat with Kirkby with a new staduim.

Really ?

 

[Scottish Toffee]

Indeed the lack of vision is frightening. In the brief KEIOC period it became clear just how little the club knew about the Kirkby project. They just wanted someone else to do it for them.

However I think people overestimate how much difference a new stadium would make to our ability to compete.

Put it this way if we were given for free, and filled, a 70k stadium every week at current prices and sold 100 exec boxes at £50k a season we'd be £25m a year better off.

That would be enough to put us roughly level with Aston Villa in how much we could pay in wages. We'd still be £50m+ away from the current leading clubs.

The new stadium would be about more than increased revenue per season. It makes the club a much more attractive prospect as an investment. New investors would not have to spend 200-300 million on a new stadium in order to make the club vaguely commercially competitive thus the only initial expenditure would be on buying shares and clearing the debt.

 

[Scottish Toffee]

We miss the boat with Kings Docks with a new staduim.

Fixed

 

[Bigmaclad]

Has he signed yet?

 

[Eggs]

....you have to think that missing out on Kings Dock is a key piece of misjudgement by the board. That area is a hub of activity and looks magnificent, particularly of an evening when it has a real cosmipolitan feel. Increasingly more and more cruise liners are visiting the dock and how good it would be if an Everton stadium had been part of the waterfront. That is the type of strategy that surely would've attracted investment.
I love the Old Lady of Goodison and was raised in Everton but that walk from Church Rd up City Rd is sole destroying, looking at parents and their kids dodging the dog muck. Even the boozer opposite the main stand is boarded up.

 

[Chang Elephant]

We miss the boat with Kirkby with a new staduim.

Outstanding

 

[Moomin]

We miss the boat with Kirkby with a new staduim.

Was the boat named Titanic?

 

[nigelcoyb]

We miss the boat with Kirkby with a new staduim.

Dodged a bullet more like.

The only way Kirkby would have worked would have been to hit the ground running winning trophies AND qualifying for the CL eradicating criticisms in one go.

Muddling along as we have done would have given long serving fans every excuse to say "thanks but no thanks", any replacement of Goodison has to be 10 times the stadium to give it a chance.

Putting the thing outside the city was about as stupid a thing as you could do - cretinous thinking.

 

[MACCA75]

Dont know what all the talk of Arsenal and Wenger is about in this thread. Wenger is a great manager, Moyes isnt half as good, and that's no sleight on Moyes.

Secondly it seems that people are trying to convince themselves that Moyes is actually a bit rubbish. Plays dire football, is hopeless in cups (3rd FA cup semi final in 5 years is tantalisingly close btw) and is basically tactically lacking and bottles big games.

The truth is that I would say there is a 90% chance that results will go downhill after his departure (providing the current owners remain). And it would take a miracle worker to turn us into anything like a semi regular Champions League team.

 

[Timak]

The new stadium would be about more than increased revenue per season. It makes the club a much more attractive prospect as an investment. New investors would not have to spend 200-300 million on a new stadium in order to make the club vaguely commercially competitive thus the only initial expenditure would be on buying shares and clearing the debt.

You are presuming:
(1) That the price asked doesn't change to reflect the fact there is a new stadium
(2) That the new stadium is a benefit rather than a white elephant.

 

[Stend]

Theres loads of derelict space on the waterfront owned by Peel Holdings. We should get in on their projects.

They want to build all kinds on the Wirral and Liverpool waterfronts. Its the access and trafic conjestions thats the problem. Kings dock would have been fantastic.

 

[Carlito]

Indeed the lack of vision is frightening. In the brief KEIOC period it became clear just how little the club knew about the Kirkby project. They just wanted someone else to do it for them.

However I think people overestimate how much difference a new stadium would make to our ability to compete.

Put it this way if we were given for free, and filled, a 70k stadium every week at current prices and sold 100 exec boxes at £50k a season we'd be £25m a year better off.

That would be enough to put us roughly level with Aston Villa in how much we could pay in wages. We'd still be £50m+ away from the current leading clubs.

The fanbase would probably be less concerned about Goodison if the board hadn't informed us that it's due to fall down any day now. We're also often told that it's one of the key reasons no one wants to buy the club.

I do agree that it wouldn't immediately solve Everton's problems, but £25m a year is nothing to be sniffed at when the manager is currently working on a budget of less than zero. As I said though, I don't want to see anything happen until a competent board is in place.

 

[Stend]

Indeed the lack of vision is frightening. In the brief KEIOC period it became clear just how little the club knew about the Kirkby project. They just wanted someone else to do it for them.

However I think people overestimate how much difference a new stadium would make to our ability to compete.

Put it this way if we were given for free, and filled, a 70k stadium every week at current prices and sold 100 exec boxes at £50k a season we'd be £25m a year better off.

That would be enough to put us roughly level with Aston Villa in how much we could pay in wages. We'd still be £50m+ away from the current leading clubs.

No chance. We fail to get 40,000 most games.