Computer games.


You're describing what's called a 'gameplay loop'. Every game has it but when it's executed poorly then it sticks out like a sore thumb and the gamer realises the repetition is occurring. A gameplay loop is at its' best when you don't consciously realise you're doing it.

Fallout 4 was a 7/10 standard game in my view. In today's world, that means "bad" for some reason when in my head that means it was "decent".

Fallout 3 was an 8.5, New Vegas was a 9 in my view.
 
You're describing what's called a 'gameplay loop'. Every game has it but when it's executed poorly then it sticks out like a sore thumb and the gamer realises the repetition is occurring. A gameplay loop is at its' best when you don't consciously realise you're doing it.

Fallout 4 was a 7/10 standard game in my view. In today's world, that means "bad" for some reason when in my head that means it was "decent".

Fallout 3 was an 8.5, New Vegas was a 9 in my view.

Fallout 3 was bad. Really clunky to control and too much wasteland with nothing in it. Fallout 4 was 10 times better.
 
Fallout 3 was bad. Really clunky to control and too much wasteland with nothing in it. Fallout 4 was 10 times better.
Thats what always put me off Fallout, and even Skyrim at first. Growing up on Call of Duty's I'm used to the gun play being really smooth and snappy so playing on Fallout and Skyrim always felt weird. Obviously one is an FPS and the others are more RPG's but it still put me off. Fallout 4 was a big step up in that respect which meant it was the one I played the most.
 
I too am a big fan of the Fallout series, have been playing them since the original was released.

But, I still thought Fallout 4 was fantastic. They aren't the same games. If you want the something comparable to the original Fallout experience then you should be looking at Wasteland instead.

But to say someone is trolling because they liked a game you didn't.........

And how is it linear? The main story follows the main story. But....... You. Don't. Have. To. Do. It.

That’s true, but it encouraged / made you to do it a lot more than, say, Skyrim did. IIRC you could do loads of that - the civil war, the college of magic, the DB quest lines for example - without touching the main quest.

In Fallout 4 a lot of the main quest lines are interconnected to a far greater extent (for instance the Prydwen will eventually turn up if you don’t meet Danse, but he is so well signposted and the reward for meeting him is so OP at lower levels that you have to deliberately decide not to do that) and it plays out much more like a story.
 

Fallout 3 was bad. Really clunky to control and too much wasteland with nothing in it. Fallout 4 was 10 times better.

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Trolling comment was tongue in cheek obviously. I just thought it was very linear as it was ‘go here, kill this guy, repeat.’ There never seemed to be any alternative paths. Again, didn’t meet my expectations of what a Fallout game is (or was it seems) so really couldn’t get into it. The whole find the Power Armour dead early and have an epic battle with a Deathclaw just felt so out of place in a Fallout game.

I've spent the last week back into Fallout 4 after a few months off and finished off the Far Harbour expansion. Big fan of the series and really like FO4 but you are right about that Power Armour Deathclaw fight right near the start - felt like far too much of a leap for the Sole Survivor fresh out of the Vault. I don't think it's altogether much more linear than either 3 or NV in quests - both had there fair share of fetch, carry, kill missions and there seems to me to be just as many alternate paths on individual quests in 4.

The overall plot of the main game is linear but then it really is always limited in a sense until you can get to a stage where a game can create branching storylines and developments on the fly....I think we're way off that. Otherwise there's a ridiculous amount of fun characters, story and lore in there....the scale is staggering.

The settlement building has really grew on me, hated it at the start, but as I've got better and worked more out it's been a nice mellow way to spend an hour. Definitely clunky and riddled with bugs but something that could be brilliant going forward.

All that said I'm not nearly as excited about 76 as some are. MMO's just never feel right to me as human players are too erratic and clearly not a part of the game world - bunny hopping completely kills the suspension of disbelief.
 

Booting up the PS3 to start Red Dead Redemption. Will probably get a PS4 in the new year for last guardian and the new red dead. Hope I enjoy this as the hype is strong

Just realised I've dead space 1 and mirror's edge to finish too...



....really should finish beyond good and evil some day too...
 

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