2025/26 Charly Alcaraz

The players have responsibility to see that game out, they are professionals.

Not sure what you want Moyes to do, he can’t run the ball into the corner for them.
I agree that the players have a responsibility, that’s not what I’m saying.

Do you not also see that those same players who Moyes has sparingly used might be a bit rusty when they are called upon as they have hardly played any football, so mistakes can happen?

The two things are linked, hence why I stated Moyes can get away with murder with some fans.
 
Mad people are having a go at Charley or Patterson, when collectively we shat the bad for several minutes after scoring our 3rd and the ref had a compete stinker.

Sound, let’s blame the players who have hardly had a kick all season.

Never change evertonians, no wonder Moyes can get away with murder.
He was really really poor. It's another example in a long list this season of a player coming off the bench and having the wrong impact on the game.

It's not as simple as saying Moyes should use his bench more because there have been plenty of examples of our performance levels falling off significantly after we make changes. The Derby was the most obvious example.
 
See the play again. He was between guarding Donnarumma or Doku. If he close Doku Donnarumma would have received just to kick it.
Just think about what you've just typed there for a moment

Also go back and look at how that corner happened in the first place. We were seconds away from winning the game if he uses his head and runs the ball into the corner
 
Scapegoat hunters are back at him again. So pathetic are
He shouldn’t have been on the pitch in the first place.

Insane decision to take off your best performing midfielder to close out a game in favour of a guy who’s not had a proper kick in how long. He’s short too, so you lose height bringing him on to defend from the inevitable set pieces (and lo and behold)
 
He shouldn’t have been on the pitch in the first place.

Insane decision to take off your best performing midfielder to close out a game in favour of a guy who’s not had a proper kick in how long. He’s short too, so you lose height bringing him on to defend from the inevitable set pieces (and lo and behold)
If that happened against a team like Wolves then I'd say your argument was valid, but City were on a mission. Let's not dwell on the bad too much but embrace the positives. I've no issue with Alcaraz being on pitch at the end. These things happen in competitive elite football matches
 
I agree that the players have a responsibility, that’s not what I’m saying.

Do you not also see that those same players who Moyes has sparingly used might be a bit rusty when they are called upon as they have hardly played any football, so mistakes can happen?

The two things are linked, hence why I stated Moyes can get away with murder with some fans.
Both Moyes and the players who came on as subs, as well as some who were already on the pitch, need to take some responsibility. Moyes made those subs, I assume, to run down the clock a bit rather than for any tactical reasons, that's a risky approach particularly when neither Patterson or Alcaraz have had any real game time recently, but every manager does it. That being said, the panicked approach of some players, including Alcaraz, to seeing out the game was also poor and can't be entirely put at the feet of Moyes. The late goals against us are a big concern now, as they seem to be a regular fixture of our games, Moyes needs to be drilling the players on game management and the players need to be taking more responsibility in the latter stages of games, especially our senior players like Tarkowski, Gana (I know he didn't play last night but he did play in the last two where we also conceded late goals), Garner, Mykolenko, Ndiaye, Beto etc....
 
If that happened against a team like Wolves then I'd say your argument was valid, but City were on a mission. Let's not dwell on the bad too much but embrace the positives. I've no issue with Alcaraz being on pitch at the end. These things happen in competitive elite football matches
Knew it’d get written off as just being ‘against city’

let’s embrace the positives of pissing 4 points up the wall in injury time of our last 3 games due to terrible game management and likely missing out a golden chance to get Europa league? No thanks
 
All I see is that Moyes' lackeys always look for the same scapegoats.
I'm happy to debate any of Moyes's shortcomings, but it changes nothing about Alcaraz's mistakes ultimately costing us 2 points last night. Yes, there are plenty of other incidents you can point to, but his two crucial errors in the last 60 seconds are the most critical ones as there's no time to fix them
 

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