2019/20 Carlo Ancelotti

[Gilbert..]

Carlos messed up yesterday, Sigs,Gomes and Davies in midfield, could you have a weaker midfield? Pushing Holgate up into midfield would have been a better option. Why isn’t Mina playing?

Who else was available for him in midfield? Pushing the centre half up into midfield really is last options stuff. Or should be.
I dont mind him playing them now anyway. As it can make up his mind who can be cleared out in the summer.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Carlos messed up yesterday, Sigs,Gomes and Davies in midfield, could you have a weaker midfield? Pushing Holgate up into midfield would have been a better option. Why isn’t Mina playing?

There are two better CBs currently, I do not use better literally, more subjectively...

 

[Faroy86580]

I think all of us can vouch for what a truly disgraceful group of cowards we have and that will come to light unlike Silva they won’t get away with us taking our anger out on the manager.

next Monday has unforeseen toxicity levels pending

True now Ancelotti is in charge it's cleared to all the real problems you'd think some of them would try harder but they don't seem to realise they are in the firing line now.

 

[Faroy86580]

What, with the bleedin obvious ancelotti has a tough job. Cheers Roy we hadnt guessed. Its more the fact the likes himself sit there and comment on football management when he's had a go and was awful and yet so many still take his views as important. Comment on players performances by all means. But if asked about managers just say move on to the next subject as i clearly couldnt do it.

I'm afraid what he said was true though. Tbh it doesn't matter if big Nev says we were poor or Roy Keane it's a fact that exists regardless of who said it.

I think we were poor. I'm allowed to say so despite not ever managing or playing football professionally

 

[Gilbert..]

I'm afraid what he said was true though. Tbh it doesn't matter if big Nev says we were poor or Roy Keane it's a fact that exists regardless of who said it.

I think we were poor. I'm allowed to say so despite not ever managing or playing football professionally

Missing the point. Im not talking about yest. Im talking the whole roy keane thing. Sky have him because they want him to kick off with someone.

 

[Faroy86580]

Missing the point. Im not talking about yest. Im talking the whole roy keane thing. Sky have him because they want him to kick off with someone.

He does seem the type to 'speak his mind' while actually just being rude and unpleasant.

 

[Gilbert..]

He does seem the type to 'speak his mind' while actually just being rude and unpleasant.

And ego. Great player. Id listen to his comments on midfielders as he done it all.
His views on managers i wouldnt though. Like many great players who never cut it in management id rather take those opinions on those who have.

 

[Saint Domingo]

He’s got nothing to work with. 5 years of terrible recruitment has left him with a useless squad with a terrible mentality.

We have one player who could potentially mix it with the top teams in Richarlison. Holgate might make the bench of a few. The rest none would touch with a barge pole. A bit different than when we had teams with the best full back pairing in the league, or Lukaku Stones Barkley in them and they were being linked with top clubs every window.

He’s starting from ground zero. It’s just a good job the new manager bounce has hopefully staved off relegation worries because this squad would not be up for the fight.

Major major work is needed and what’s worrying is that despite most of Brands signings being our best players they’re still not at the level required. Digne is too slow, Bernard is too slow, Iwobi provides nothing.

Looking at our 11 against a Chelsea B team yesterday was painful. We are so far behind a team that is fighting for fourth in the league. Barkley Mount and Gilmour aren’t even the very top calibre (thank god it wasn’t Kante Jorginho Kovacic) and yet we got absolutely dominated by them whilst old men Pedro and Willian could run any of our back 4 in a race with ease. Even Giroud was looking quicker than them!

Carlo is so good he’ll probably raise expectations more than they should be in the short term but the cupboard is absolutely bare. We’ve got a 5 year job ahead of us to repair the last 5 years.

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

Who else was available for him in midfield? Pushing the centre half up into midfield really is last options stuff. Or should be.
I dont mind him playing them now anyway. As it can make up his mind who can be cleared out in the summer.

Try Bernard in the middle, he grafts, presses, puts in tackles, much more mobile than any of our midfielders yesterday and has a trick or 5 and cutting pass up his sleeve too.

Playing two slow players together in the middle is killing us, Gomez and Bernard are very good footballers, could be a good partnership till we get to the summer.

 

[Gilbert..]

Try Bernard in the middle, he grafts, presses, puts in tackles, much more mobile than any of our midfielders yesterday and has a trick or 5 and cutting pass up his sleeve too.

Playing two slow players together in the middle is killing us, Gomez and Bernard are very good footballers, could be a good partnership till we get to the summer.

Wouldnt argue with that mate tbh.

 

[Faroy86580]

He’s got nothing to work with. 5 years of terrible recruitment has left him with a useless squad with a terrible mentality.

We have one player who could potentially mix it with the top teams in Richarlison. Holgate might make the bench of a few. The rest none would touch with a barge pole. A bit different than when we had teams with the best full back pairing in the league, or Lukaku Stones Barkley in them and they were being linked with top clubs every window.

He’s starting from ground zero. It’s just a good job the new manager bounce has hopefully staved off relegation worries because this squad would not be up for the fight.

Major major work is needed and what’s worrying is that despite most of Brands signings being our best players they’re still not at the level required. Digne is too slow, Bernard is too slow, Iwobi provides nothing.

Looking at our 11 against a Chelsea B team yesterday was painful. We are so far behind a team that is fighting for fourth in the league. Barkley Mount and Gilmour aren’t even the very top calibre (thank god it wasn’t Kante Jorginho Kovacic) and yet we got absolutely dominated by them whilst old men Pedro and Willian could run any of our back 4 in a race with ease. Even Giroud was looking quicker than them!

Carlo is so good he’ll probably raise expectations more than they should be in the short term but the cupboard is absolutely bare. We’ve got a 5 year job ahead of us to repair the last 5 years.

Yep

 

[Walken]

Yeah i remember when we were battering his team 7-1 at goodison he looked brilliant.
He's nothing but a shock jock now put there to cause a stir. His views on successful managers are void. People who take it serious are clowns. The fella sits there and critices the most successful british manager of all time. Let the ego go.

They aren't void, you just disagree with him, and using your own measuring terms until you have done punditry at a top level ypu aren't fit to have an opinion on keanes opinion

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

I'm afraid what he said was true though. Tbh it doesn't matter if big Nev says we were poor or Roy Keane it's a fact that exists regardless of who said it.

I think we were poor. I'm allowed to say so despite not ever managing or playing football professionally

Carlo has improved us loads since what we were seeing week in week out under Silva, in the last week he has said we are not far away from challenging these top sides everytime we play them, Keane was just being Keane, he was right about our centre midfield but I've been saying since the Man U game when Gomez came back, we can't put Davies and Gomez together.

At the moment Davies and Gomez's mobility in the middle is killing us especially against top sides like Man U and Chelsea who have much quicker players in midfield, we can't press them effectively, Gomez needs a more mobile partner in there to see out the season.

 

[ossie_21]

Try Bernard in the middle, he grafts, presses, puts in tackles, much more mobile than any of our midfielders yesterday and has a trick or 5 and cutting pass up his sleeve too.

Playing two slow players together in the middle is killing us, Gomez and Bernard are very good footballers, could be a good partnership till we get to the summer.

Haven’t heard any news about it yet, but wouldn’t be surprised if Bernard’s injured an ACL too. Looked innocuous, half time went & he stayed down for a long time holding his knee

 

[brieverton]

I hope he is happy to stay for the long haul.

My thoughts for a long while are that even with the absolute pre-requisite of an excellent manager in place, this ship is long for the turning and it will take at least two full seasons to see a tangible difference. Two seasons in which we don't make any errors with incoming signings and that's a tall order.

Two or three well-placed signings in the summer would make a huge difference and could make us really competitive around the fringes but the change in mentality is going to prove far more difficult to correct in the short-term, that can only be achieved over a sustained longer-term period of improvement and collective increase in standards and confidence.

Only a handful of players are good enough to be retained and the problem of binning the remainder still leaves an enormous headache. The reality is that many of the current squad, and those not good enough, are still going to be around next year and the year after. Things can only be improved piece by piece.

We see the limitations of this squad every single time we come against above-average opposition. More often we get beat because we are very average and they are not.

It's not at all a criticism of Ancelotti but the results so far are more or less in line with expectations. He hasn't been able to organise this group of players into a unit such that we can get a standout result like what we hoped for yesterday, or at Arsenal. That does concern me a little, not so much that we haven't done it but we lose the benefits of a really good away result that would allow us to begin next season with that burden lifted just a little.