2019/20 Carlo Ancelotti

[Khalekan]

We’ve had some good managers in our history, including two great ones who were given the time and resources to build world class sides,
If Ancelotti is given the time and financial backing that is required in this day and age then he could well join Messrs Catterick and Kendall.

Harry wasn’t “given time” to build a team.

The nucleus of that team was already there when he came here and he enhanced it very quickly.

He won the League in 1963, two years after he joined as manager and the bulk of that team had been bequeathed him by Johnny Carey.

 

[Nymzee]

Er joined 06/01/20. Name references liverpool. Banging on about ‘xG’.
Mods this is fairly obvious....

I reported him weeks ago for being one of them but to no immediate avail.

 

[Kirkdale]

What's 'xG' ?

 

[Goat]

What's 'xG' ?

Expected Gobs.

 

[Neiler]

What's 'xG' ?

Imaginary goals that could potentially be scored really.

 

[Moonlight dribbler]

He has proven in the past and should prove in the future in Catterick/Kendall class as a manager for this club. But, so far his tactics have looked pretty hit and miss/random as you would expect,

We have deffo been on the lucky side of expected goals!
He was very poor v lpool in the cup and the Newcastle subs gave away 2 points. Also, how was Walcot still on the pitch against Watford when he got the winner. But non of that really matters in the long run.
He has already managed to improve league results just by being HIM!
Hopefully his decision making will gradually improve as his knowledge of the club/team goes forward.

Kopites are fuming again. Top of the league by miles, but all in a tiz over Carlo.

 

[catcherintherye]

Yeah, I think that belief in the manager has to play a huge part. Under Silva, they would have collapsed after Delph's sending off.


At the same time, the Keane sub is the kind of move that could so easily backfire on a less lucky general (how many times did we lament Moyes's inviting of pressure with a negative change?). However, much like how we've talked about the players being more motivated to play for Ancelotti, us fans are also more inclined towards seeing this as a direct response to Watford pumping long balls at Deeney, rather than just a hopeful flooding of the box with bodies. Another example is how I happily presume that he'll never throw Niasse on while defending a lead again, because he'll have seen how his inability to control the ball resulted in Newcastle being able to move up the pitch without fear of being caught out. If Silva had done that, I'd have held it over his head for months.

That may read as me being cynical or even critical, but it's honestly not. You only have to look across the park to see how galvanising it can be to have a unifying presence in the dugout.

I do understand what you are saying. I think Ancelotti has the gravitas to carry supporters with him. This ultimately makes an enormous difference. Once the fans start to get on a managers back particularly one that doesn't have much credit in the bank, it's game over.

I think Moshiri eluded to this in his words about Everton being a "difficult" fanbase and requiring an "experienced" manager. It probably comes across as a bit harsh but I think he's correct. I don't think Ancelottt is phased by Everton's fan base at all. In truth, having a job where he can experiment for 9 months before a new season is a relative luxury for him in the type of jobs he's been in.

Being able to carry the fans makes an enormous difference. As you suspect it will, be similar for players. That draw against Newcastle would corroded a lot of managers. The fact we bounced back, in the manner we did says a lot for Ancelotti. Right down to scoring 2 goals in injury time, we effectively banished the demons of Newcastle.

You've seen what a difference Klopp has made to Liverpool. While they are all coming out of the woodwork about the brilliance of the recruitment (and it has been very good) nobody was saying that pre Klopp. Having a top draw manager knits everything else together. We are fortunate in Ancelotti (who lest we forget wason the shortlist of 2 with Klopp for Liverpool) to have a similar figure who can knit stuff together.

It looks to be an inspired choice thus far. Lets hope it doesn't all go pear shaped and make me look stupid!

 

[catcherintherye]

He has proven in the past and should prove in the future in Catterick/Kendall class as a manager for this club. But, so far his tactics have looked pretty hit and miss/random as you would expect,

We have deffo been on the lucky side of expected goals!
He was very poor v lpool in the cup and the Newcastle subs gave away 2 points. Also, how was Walcot still on the pitch against Watford when he got the winner. But non of that really matters in the long run.
He has already managed to improve league results just by being HIM!
Hopefully his decision making will gradually improve as his knowledge of the club/team goes forward.

Have we been very lucky on XG? I haven't seen that at all.

 

[mikel_88]

before carlo we didnt have a manager who could adapt during the match was same formation all the time , im excited to see a few additions in the summer to see where he can take us

 

[TimHowardsBeardJuice]

I do understand what you are saying. I think Ancelotti has the gravitas to carry supporters with him. This ultimately makes an enormous difference. Once the fans start to get on a managers back particularly one that doesn't have much credit in the bank, it's game over.

I think Moshiri eluded to this in his words about Everton being a "difficult" fanbase and requiring an "experienced" manager. It probably comes across as a bit harsh but I think he's correct. I don't think Ancelottt is phased by Everton's fan base at all. In truth, having a job where he can experiment for 9 months before a new season is a relative luxury for him in the type of jobs he's been in.

Being able to carry the fans makes an enormous difference. As you suspect it will, be similar for players. That draw against Newcastle would corroded a lot of managers. The fact we bounced back, in the manner we did says a lot for Ancelotti. Right down to scoring 2 goals in injury time, we effectively banished the demons of Newcastle.

You've seen what a difference Klopp has made to Liverpool. While they are all coming out of the woodwork about the brilliance of the recruitment (and it has been very good) nobody was saying that pre Klopp. Having a top draw manager knits everything else together. We are fortunate in Ancelotti (who lest we forget wason the shortlist of 2 with Klopp for Liverpool) to have a similar figure who can knit stuff together.

It looks to be an inspired choice thus far. Lets hope it doesn't all go pear shaped and make me look stupid!

this is right. Carlo is 100% bulletproof. All of our recent managers were a run of 2 or 3 losses in a row away from a crisis, which didn’t allow room to breathe, test formations and personnel, send younger players out with assurances that they wouldn’t be dropped for one mistake, etc. this was a big factor in our brittle mindset. The players seemed to like Silva and he never lost the dressing room, but they were so fearful of consequences that heads dropped the moment something bad happened on the pitch.

Carlo legit DGAF. They’re never going tofire him. He will have all the time in the world to get it right. There’s no pressure in this job that he can’t handle. He commands respect from all.

 

[blue61]

Hands up if you think @14towestham is bad minge

 

[donny]

Harry wasn’t “given time” to build a team.

The nucleus of that team was already there when he came here and he enhanced it very quickly.

He won the League in 1963, two years after he joined as manager and the bulk of that team had been bequeathed him by Johnny Carey.

He also then built another team based on his signings and homegrown young talent which produced the most fluent and attractive football I have ever seen as an Evertonian.From 66 onwards.

 

[ToffeeTim]

Ole ole

 

[ToffeeTim]

Ancelotti

 

[MikeH72]

Imagine if that small run of form in April/May hadn't masked an appalling season last year and we had done the right thing and dumped Silva in the Summer.

Ancelotti has transformed this club in the short time hes been here.

Imagine if hed been here since the start.

Would be in the top 4 and be challenging City and Leicester, im certain of it.

Well he wouldn’t have been because he was Napoli manager in the summer.