Can we afford another war?

[Matt Damon]

If Argentina invade on OUR land they are breaking International Law and therefore MUST BE PUNISHED.

T wo sides to Argentina's claim to the Falklands. One is based on geographic proximity. It's a poor claim, as the Falklands are a 480km way from Argentina, and are almost as close to Chile. 300 miles
The UK has exercised sovereignty over the Islands since 1833. Argentina had a settlement on the islands and claimed sovereignty from 1816 (when it gained independence from Spain). So we have 17 years of occupation and claims to sovereignty versus the UK's 176 years of de facto control and almost 300 years of British settlement.

That would be the argument if these were barren lumps of rock without a real population of their own.

But that is not the case, and there is a community of Falkland Islanders who have lived on the islands for generations, and their will is to be a self-governing Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom, and they do not accept Argentina's claims, which are colonialist and illegitimate.

Even the use of Spanish place names (eg Malvinas) is considered offensive in the Falkland Islands.

 

[McBain]

Lets just call it New New Zealand and get on with it

 

[KelseyGrammer-Beast-SuitsBlue]

Few of their sons will be on the front line though.

To be fair I do not recall many of the labour front benchers sons and daughters being cannon fodder in Iraq part II and Afghanistan.
As for being able to afford another war, of course the west can, the biggest producers of arms can always afford new killing materials, it means the producers of such machines can sell the latest spec ultra killing stuff to themselves and flog the previous latest gear to whichever dictator from Africa or wherever that can bid the highest. Nothing furnishes your second home and that of your mistress like blood money can.
Just to clarify, George W Bush jnr can rot in hell, the stupid, inbred, war mongering, trader in fear, racist. Big thanks to the USA, may the trident nuclear arms replacement last as long as trident did. (Billions!!!)

 

[KelseyGrammer-Beast-SuitsBlue]

The account that positive repped me, say and stand here instead of letting the jackals circle and eventually get their way.

All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing

 

[spikeman]

The account that positive repped me, say and stand here instead of letting the jackals circle and eventually get their way.

If they didn't leave their name, they probably don't want you to know.

 

[KelseyGrammer-Beast-SuitsBlue]

If they didn't leave their name, they probably don't want you to know.

Then why bother. As for any future war, how else will the west claw back the capital from the Chinese? Banks need funding, and the west knows those banks are not those for fishing!!!

 

[Nordecke]

we talkin' argies here and Falklands?
make no mistake if any British Sovereign territory is challenged... we will blow the twa@s out of the sky the ocean and off the face of the land, it will be forget Iraq, forget the afghans, our lads will pay for their own flights.
those thickset dark haired bastards will wish they had learned the 1st time... the war machine will spring to life & open up 1 eager eye.

basically we will say to America, "observe and see how this is done..... this is how to handle 'domestic' issues."

Apart from the Falklands issue , the u.k. and argentina have great historical relations.... strained obviously by the fat cocaine snorting handballin' cheat

Will the Argentino's be wearing Uniforms? Will they use woman and children as shields? Will they set up bases of operation in churches, schools, hospitals?
(My point is mate, that it's much easier to SAY what you would do, than it is to actually do it... Once the tree huggin hippies and media get ahold of your "Way to do it" then my friend the pressure is on, and your country will be labeld as imbreds)

Were you in Iraq? Were you in Afghanistan? curious... Considering your vast knowledge on the way the wars are being handled..

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

I'm a lover not a fighter.

I am also exempt from any military callup for 1, I would never join up for two, if forced in I would conscientiously object..... especially for someone elses war.

 

[Robert Jarvis]

T wo sides to Argentina's claim to the Falklands. One is based on geographic proximity. It's a poor claim, as the Falklands are a 480km way from Argentina, and are almost as close to Chile. 300 miles
The UK has exercised sovereignty over the Islands since 1833. Argentina had a settlement on the islands and claimed sovereignty from 1816 (when it gained independence from Spain). So we have 17 years of occupation and claims to sovereignty versus the UK's 176 years of de facto control and almost 300 years of British settlement.

That would be the argument if these were barren lumps of rock without a real population of their own.

But that is not the case, and there is a community of Falkland Islanders who have lived on the islands for generations, and their will is to be a self-governing Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom, and they do not accept Argentina's claims, which are colonialist and illegitimate.

Even the use of Spanish place names (eg Malvinas) is considered offensive in the Falkland Islands.

That is spot on Matt (note first name!!!!!!) If one were to take Argentina seriously, history books all around the World would have to be rewritten and for example China would have to get out of Tibet. Thatcher went to war to restate to the world the legitamacy of Falklands state.

As to the title can we afford another war, that is not the case. The fact of the matter is we do not have the Armed Forces to be able to do it. The navy was severely cut back by Brown with about 33% of surface ships being taken out of commision, our 2 aircraft carriers are a waste as essentially the Fleet Air Arm no longer exists as we have no Harriers now capable of Aircraft operations.

So it is not a case of funds but of lack of resources.

PS Do not want to upset our USA friends on here but Hilary Clinton should mind her own F*****g business and sod off.

 

[Nordecke]

I'm a lover not a fighter.

I am also exempt from any military callup for 1, I would never join up for two, if forced in I would conscientiously object..... especially for someone elses war.

Fair enough, I suppose..

 

[Seamus Colemole]

T wo sides to Argentina's claim to the Falklands. One is based on geographic proximity. It's a poor claim, as the Falklands are a 480km way from Argentina, and are almost as close to Chile. 300 miles
The UK has exercised sovereignty over the Islands since 1833. Argentina had a settlement on the islands and claimed sovereignty from 1816 (when it gained independence from Spain). So we have 17 years of occupation and claims to sovereignty versus the UK's 176 years of de facto control and almost 300 years of British settlement.

That would be the argument if these were barren lumps of rock without a real population of their own.

But that is not the case, and there is a community of Falkland Islanders who have lived on the islands for generations, and their will is to be a self-governing Overseas Territory of the United Kingdom, and they do not accept Argentina's claims, which are colonialist and illegitimate.

Even the use of Spanish place names (eg Malvinas) is considered offensive in the Falkland Islands.

I'm getting a very strong sense of deja va right now, don't know why.

*closes wikipedia*