Match Thread Burnley V Everton preview thread/match day thread

[marsh]

...unfortunately we didn't which is why the league doesn't lie.

Iknow, just frustrating as whenever we have a chance to right up there/in the mix we cock up.

This all started Vs Norwich and people didn't seem to mind going out the cup

 

[ianefc]

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[Prevenger17]

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Might as well have kept Martinez

 

[ianefc]

Might as well have kept Martinez

It'd of been 4-1 if we had, plus two hamstring injuries and a lie ridden post match interview that treated Evertonian's like titheads

 

[Prevenger17]

that treated Evertonian's like titheads

Treated Evertonians like Evertonians then WHAAAAA????

 

[Eggs]

Iknow, just frustrating as whenever we have a chance to right up there/in the mix we cock up.

This all started Vs Norwich and people didn't seem to mind going out the cup

....the fact we had a chance to be in the mix is probably an indicator of the league itself. We have lost to Bournemouth and Burnley. I said to my son yesterday that whichever side scored 2 will win, I just hoped we had tightened our defence enough to keep clean sheets.

We have looked very ordinary to me so far although I fully appreciate we're work in progress. I haven't seen anything of our game yesterday but understand we bossed it, my concern has been the lack of creativity.

 

[Deulofeumygod]

As it stands, we keep 6th. We dominated that game and if it wasn't for Heaton and and their back two cbs we would have won by 3 or 4. Koeman's reaction said it all. We did not deserve to lose this game.

Stop moaning. Yesterday was nothing like throwing away points at Bournemouth and Chelsea and West Ham. Our defence is now secure and we do not have Howard, our back four have confidence in the Keeper and bar a couple of errors we have been excellent at the back. Second least most conceded in the league.

Just stop moaning.

cannot wait to get at West Ham after last season they deserve a hammering.

 

[Blue_in_london]

Well said. I've just been accused of being a North Korean orthodoxy in another thread for being positive.

I mean....

Hmmm, I seem to remember getting banned for a similar N Korean slur last year! Maybe there's something in it - do you have a dodgy barnet !!

 

[froggyted]

Burnley fan based in Liverpool. Sadly, too close to Anfield for my liking but enjoyed beating them 2-0 and gloating about it the next day. First off. You're THE BEST team to come to Turf Moor this season. It may not seem like it after a defeat, in which all fairness; you deserved a point from at least. If it cheers you up any, Liverpool were pish poor and we made them look that way. Your lot had more dimension to your game and caused us more problems in the first five minutes than they did in 90+ minutes.
I have a lot of time for Everton. You're not a club like Liverpool who go on a relatively successful ten or so years and think they have a God given right to the title. It doesn't suit you to start thinking that way. You have a lot of admirers at Burnley and beyond for not taking that approach. Let's face it. Liverpool FC is just an after thought of the original founders (along with us) of the football league.
I have no time for the red half of the city and their constant whining about 'This is our year' crap and thinking they are better than anyone else. Lets not forget, the money they borrowed on tick almost caused them to go bust as recently as 2010.
I digress. To be fair, you played well. I have to admit, I said to my fiancee that if we actually got the ball down and played it through your defence, you were there for the taking. Jagielka was a real weak point.
Yes we do play a style of football that leaves many Clarets fans less than happy ourselves. This season is about maintaining our Premier League status. If you ask older generations of Everton fans about our great sides of the 50's and 60's; they'll remind you younger ones that we are well known for playing it on the deck. We've had a rough number of years, which could have happened to any club. We haven't sold out to foreigners, we haven't gone away from our basic belief in that if you work hard enough, you'll get your just rewards. We're in the Premier League on merit and although the football isn't great. We don't have any billionaire benefactor to go and buy players at will. We work within our means.
Swings and roundabouts in this league. We should have got at least a point against Arsenal and lost to a highly controversial injury time goal. Your lot outplayed us for most (not all) of the game and deserved something. As stated at the beginning. You were the best team we faced at Turf Moor this season. Physically, creatively more of a threat than any of the others. Results even themselves out over the season. Arguably we deserved a draw at least against Arsenal and deserved to beat Watford by more than 2.
One other thing to remember is we're not LITTLE OLD BURNLEY. We're founder members of the league along with you. The only difference is that our fortunes dipped in the 70's and 80's and suffered through that. We're a big club catching up. Belittling our club is unbecoming to you as you're supposed to be better than that. I yearn for us to be able to field a team that can play the ball on the deck as we are well known for from our glory years. That will come in time. Remember the Joe Royle - Dogs of War? One of the reasons I followed you as a second team back in the day was because of your determination with a lesser team than others.
Watching the game live I thought you looked lively. Best team to play us at our Gaff. Although you need to take your chances and with our keeper, you really were not going to. He is without doubt the best keeper in England at present. Watching it on MOTD last night. Your goal was down to a mistake by us in your half and all your shots were regulation saves for a keeper as good as ours.
Good luck for the rest of the season. You'll be there or thereabouts for the top six. We'll settle on 17th place. Although, preferably with a better style of football thereafter.

Thanks very much for this post. If some of the 'fans' on here could just get their heads out of their collective a**e long enough they might just see the logic of your words. Good luck for the rest of the season. Right now, regardless of your history, you are underdogs, and i for one love to see underdogs win.

 

[froggyted]

I have now calmed down from my ultra fume mode but still very disappointed. Possession does not win games, goals win games. We have a £40 mill value striker and several other players valued in millions yet we cannot score. Something is not working, come on Ronald sort it.
AS the Burnley fan pointed out a bit of a weakness in central defence - Jagielka could be right on this, last game gave away two penalties which we were fortunate to survive. DaveK has singled out Jags as being one to phase out and I kind of agree on that. Why are we are not pairing Williams and Mori? Surely must have another CB some where or bring back Galloway.

Ah, but so many on here think they know better than the manager, and he's hardly had time to warm his seat up.

 

[froggyted]

Win yesterday and we would be 2points off top. Typical

But who really gives a flying [Poor language removed]? It's the position at the end of the season that matters, not a few games in.

 

[kithnou]

My concern at the moment with Everton is that, despite the style of football being played, I'm sensing it is starting to get the "same old" feeling to it over the last month.
Can't keep a clean sheet. Comical goals conceded or headed goals from pressureless crosses. Even scoring one goal looks to be our lot, forget two or more, regardless of how bad the opposition is. Can't buy a win to save us.
Clean sheets get points. Can't be conceding 2 goals to poor teams like the one on the weekend.
A win with a clean sheet against West Ham please...

 

[Khalekan]

Iknow, just frustrating as whenever we have a chance to right up there/in the mix we cock up.

This all started Vs Norwich and people didn't seem to mind going out the cup

This.

And many shrug off the fact that but for dropping eight points against Bournemouth, Palace and Burnley we would be on top, or very near the top, of the league on the grounds that "we would have settled for this at the start of the season".

Maybe we would.....but I'm darned if we should be "settling for this" after the results in the first five games gave us a great platform to get in the mix.

 

[marsh]

But who really gives a flying [Poor language removed]? It's the position at the end of the season that matters, not a few games in.

I do, I'd like us to be winning games at the moment and be right up there. Plus it makes me happier when we are doing well

 

[kithnou]

This.

And many shrug off the fact that but for dropping eight points against Bournemouth, Palace and Burnley we would be on top, or very near the top, of the league on the grounds that "we would have settled for this at the start of the season".

Maybe we would.....but I'm darned if we should be "settling for this" after the results in the first five games gave us a great platform to get in the mix.

Really hate it when people say this. In fact, I hate settling for anything in life.