British Imperialism

British Imperialism - good or bad?


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As someone who's only ever worked in metric, feet, inches and then the subsequent fractions seem overly complicated.

The si system with the prefixes every thousandth is far more logical I think
I think it boils down to experience: what you've been brought up with and/or worked with. The younger generation are surrounded by metric, so it's natural to them.

I was brought up in a different era and still play football and golf with yards, which means I can measure them quite accurately, but ask me to do it in metres...
 
Yet the americans sent men to the moon using it...how quaint, however did they manage?

Ans; it doesn't matter, its about the person doing the measurement.
I used to bore out precise diameters using spring bow inside calipers and a external micrometer...old school skills.
Of course... Not doubting someone will be able to use Imperial... Just the SI system is far superior in my opinion. Not just the prefix system, but also the connections between the SI units... Eg how the metric units of length link to volume and mass of water, and to Newtons and work done. It's a beautifully interconnected system.

Add to that the nano, micro, milli, kilo, mega etc... All logical and consistent orders of magnitude. The whole 12 inches in a foot, 16 Oz in a lb and 14 lb in a stone!? Madness

How would you measure something on the nano scale using Imperial measurements? There'd be some crazy fractions going on wouldn't there?
 
I think it boils down to experience: what you've been brought up with and/or worked with. The younger generation are surrounded by metric, so it's natural to them.

I was brought up in a different era and still play football and golf with yards, which means I can measure them quite accurately, but ask me to do it in metres...
When I was doing my apprenticeship the Tech Colleges changed over from Imperial to Metric at the start of year 4 in a 4 year course.
Threw me off completely, with ft Ibs I always had a grasp of the relationships and thus had an idea what the answer would look like. Newtons? Not a 'kin clue.
Why they didn't phase it in from year one I'll never know...probably the cost and mither of producing two sets of exams.
 
Anyone watch Portillo on the British Empire in India.

I was surprised to hear it was all about greed and religion
 
Good idea, but I think that would be political suicide. You also have to be careful when judging the morals of the past by today's standards. Murder, rape, and theft have always been abhorrent, yet there hasn't been a single age where they haven't happened. All that's changed is societies attitudes to the crimes and those who commit them. I would say that the fact that we currently see what we did as an empire as bad, is progress. I also wonder whether that played a part in its eventual collapse?

We should of used the Commonwealth as a place for our former colonies to get genuine help and support. We should of done better with places like Israel and Iraq, where we essentially forced 2 or more different cultures into one country. Or with Ireland, where separating it into 2 countries has caused chaos for generations.

We've had ample opportunities along the way to get things right, and have consistently failed. Attempting to apologise now wouldn't change a thing, and we no longer have the resources or political clout to help in the ways our former colonies actually need.

Here's an interesting question. We're all getting hot under the collar about what the British Empire did hundreds of years ago, and believe it's current incarnation should apologise. Should all the counties that made up The Allies of the Second World War, apologise to Germany for what happened to Dresden? We currently define any avoidable civilian deaths as a war crime, so was one committed?

(My apologies, I think I've been playing devils advocate a bit too much this afternoon. But it is food for thought, no?)
Dresden was undoubtedly a war crime.
 
Also war crimes IMO but that would be for a thread about American imperialism I guess?
Listened to a good podcast with this mentioned the other day.
The argument is that there could have quite possibly been heavier casualties if the bombs hadn’t been dropped. Certainly allied fatalities. Whether you agree with it or not is a different matter and you’d have thought there was certainly little reasoning for dropping the second bomb.
 
Also war crimes IMO but that would be for a thread about American imperialism I guess?
More USAF planes took part in the bombing of Dresden than RAF.

Then I assume you'd also record the London and Coventry bombings as war crimes too.

At the time though, bombings were just another theatre of war. I think a very good case could be made against them being crimes when they were committed.

My point still remains that it is not possible to judge the past using the morals of today.
 
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