Bring back Roberto Martinez?

[wainy]

The God of Sexy football compared to the beast of Allardyce.

He's matured and learnt a lot in the intervening years......

Bed

 

[barneygumble]

Resented by the Belgian players for him being "Clueless"....

Actually, perfect fit for our players.

 

[davek]

If this isn't a joke, then whoever raised the idea needs psychiatric help. Bring back the clown who started the rot?

lol

TBF, you think Moyes the modern day football club killer was a good manager. lol

Man Utd
Sociedad
Sunderland

R.I.P.

 

[wainy]

Resurrected a defunct Swansea and laid the foundations of a PL club organisation
Won the FA Cup against the most expensively assembled team in Europe bar Madrid...with an ale house team
Gave us a season points total we have never gotten near before and wont again for another generation
Took Belgium to the WC and handed them their best ever qualifying campaign

...and there's actually people on here doubting he's a far superior manager than Moyes, Koeman and Allardyce.

Ha ha ha ha.

Fwiw I think he's ideally suited to international football. Just not sustainable his style of play over a series of seasons. His unwillingness to change style was his undoing here.

 

[davek]

Resented by the Belgian players for him being "Clueless"....

Actually, perfect fit for our players.

Who? "King for a season" Tin-Tin?

Pfffft!

 

[Nymzee]

I sense your shame at having backed Koeman and now Alllardyce.

I back every manager that joins us, that's what fans should do, we have no other choice. I actually wanted Mancini before and after Koeman if you look back.

Just a bit embarrassing people clambering for a failed manager (Martinez), a limited relic (Moyes) or a sort-of-found-out-manager (Silva). End of the day we still have a coach in place.

I know you're probably just happy you didn't need to take a viagra this morning when this thread popped up.

 

[TraffordBlue]

Resurrected a defunct Swansea and laid the foundations of a PL club organisation
Won the FA Cup against the most expensively assembled team in Europe bar Madrid...with an ale house team
Gave us a season points total we have never gotten near before and wont again for another generation
Took Belgium to the WC and handed them their best ever qualifying campaign

...and there's actually people on here doubting he's a far superior manager than Moyes, Koeman and Allardyce.

Ha ha ha ha.

Why was he outdone by Moyes then?

You go on about our best PL season ever under him when it simply wasn't as 5th is not higher than 4th. You also big up the SF achievements when Moyes got us to an actual Final. Moyes also outdid him there, with less resources.

 

[davek]

Fwiw I think he's ideally suited to international football. Just not sustainable his style of play over a series of seasons. His unwillingness to change style was his undoing here.

Context is needed here: look at the dirty gutter e're in by hiring "better" managers.

Lol. We're on our knees and some people are still trying to lash out at a manager who had us playing great football and winning 21 games in a single season and taking us to cup SFs.

Ha Ha Ha. You couldn't make that tripe up.

As said, I feel their keen sense of embarrassment about what came after RM.

 

[Kantareller]

 

[davek]

Why was he outdone by Moyes then?

You go on about our best PL season ever under him when it simply wasn't as 5th is not higher than 4th. You also big up the SF achievements when Moyes got us to an actual Final. Moyes also outdid him there, with less resources.

Moyes?!

Ha Ha ha. Go and have a look at what Moyes did in the real world outside of Kenwright's cloak of protection - he nearly relegated us in his second season here...any other chairman would have kicked him out then. He allowed him to stay and we had another nine seasons of mind numbing hoofball.

 

[davek]

I back every manager that joins us, that's what fans should do, we have no other choice. I actually wanted Mancini before and after Koeman if you look back.

Just a bit embarrassing people clambering for a failed manager (Martinez), a limited relic (Moyes) or a sort-of-found-out-manager (Silva). End of the day we still have a coach in place.

I know you're probably just happy you didn't need to take a viagra this morning when this thread popped up.

You backed Koeman. He killed us.

 

[chrissyjack]

What's Walter Smith up to these days ?

 

[Nymzee]

You backed Koeman. He killed us.

Why wouldn't I back a current Everton manager? I back them till they show they need to be changed, I've been very open in that regard with all of our appointments post Moyes.

You're basically using the ineptitude of Koeman & Allardyce to try and make Martinez's last 2 seasons seem acceptable.

5th to 11th to 13th is no different in my eyes to Koeman's tenure. Both one "hit wonders". You can say 5th place is better but all that landed us is a slightly longer appearance in another cup we didn't win.

 

[davek]

Why wouldn't I back a current Everton manager? I back them till they show they need to be changed, I've been very open in that regard with all of our appointments post Moyes.

You're basically using the ineptitude of Koeman & Allardyce to try and make Martinez's last 2 seasons seem acceptable.

5th to back-to-back 13th is no different in my eyes to Koeman's tenure. Both one "hit wonders". You can say 5th place is better but all that landed us is a slightly longer appearance in another cup we didn't win.

The last two seasons were midtable rubbish, but even in those two seasons we played attacking football and scored goals and got to the latter stages of three cup competitions.

The difference between you lot and I is that I can still make a case for the manager I backed, you cant with your choices of Koeman and Allardyce.

 

[wainy]

Context is needed here: look at the dirty gutter e're in by hiring "better" managers.

Lol. We're on our knees and some people are still trying to lash out at a manager who had us playing great football and winning 21 games in a single season and taking us to cup SFs.

Ha Ha Ha. You couldn't make that tripe up.

As said, I feel their keen sense of embarrassment about what came after RM.

I agree we played some lovely football in His first season. What followed was completely unacceptable though (I'm especially thinking Hull away on new years day, up there with the worst I've ever seen from Everton). Not really bothered about the 2 SF, nobody remembers the teams that get knocked out in the semis, and says a lot that it's being dressed as some sort of achievement.

That said he obviously cared about the club and its history, tried to have us playing in an attractive manner, but for many reasons it never worked out and it become toxic. The players gave up on him way before the fans.

The less said about Koeman and the current incumbent the better.