Current Affairs Bethnal Green Three

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That was the point I was trying to make it. If it is an entitlement, then it helps us but if it isn't then it will undermine our case, hence why we'll want to rush it through.
Yes I agree, although I expect it is more luck than judgement on the part of the Home Office.

Nevertheless, it will be subject to appeal and legal review.
 
I agree. While there are valid concerns about her return, I do believe that it is more of a political and propaganda tool - that's where it's true value lies.
It appears, that the decision has been made as a result of a lack of criminal redress by the UK in this instance (although they would now have powers to deal with similar instances of travel to Syria as a designated area). Whether that becomes an argument for the courts in respect to her 'threat' to the UK I'm sure will be debated.
 
She decided to leave. She made her bed. The met didn't do enough to stop it happening.

It's a nasty situation. But, if she's really concerned so much about the welfare of her child, send the child back to live with her family - they are the victims in this, not her.

I honestly have no sympathy for her or the others.

Im not sympathetic to her and would happily see her imprisoned , my only issue is the legality of the move because next time or in 10 years it might be somebody I do have sympathy for but it’ll be too late.



I read it that although she currently does not have citizenship, as she is under twenty-one and because of her mother's citizenship then she'd be entitled to it.

Whether she wants to uptake that citizenship is a different issue indeed, but the HO's perspective (rightly or wrongly) is that she would therefore need to take it.

Bangladesh on the other hand do not want her entering their nation, so I'm not sure of the legality of denying it to her. I guess we're trying to beat them to it!

Could be wrong or rather the source could be but heard a lawyer saying she’s entitled but it doesn’t transfer to her automatically like it would do on the case of other nationalities but she in fact has to apply for it and hasn’t . Which would obviously mean she’s not even close to a citizen .
 
Could be wrong or rather the source could be but heard a lawyer saying she’s entitled but it doesn’t transfer to her automatically like it would do on the case of other nationalities but she in fact has to apply for it and hasn’t . Which would obviously mean she’s not even close to a citizen .
That's what I read. From what I can tell, the view of the HO is that while she has not applied for citizenship, if she did then it must be granted without refusal.

Therefore is revoking her UK citizenship then leaving her stateless as she has the opportunity to receive Bangladeshi citizenship? To not take it would be her choice.

Obviously, the UK, Bangladesh and her lawyers may all have different perspectives of this and therefore, as @JEBUS_LIVES mentioned, I expect it will go to court.
 
That's what I read. From what I can tell, the view of the HO is that while she has not applied for citizenship, if she did then it must be granted without refusal.

Therefore is revoking her UK citizenship then leaving her stateless as she has the opportunity to receive Bangladeshi citizenship? To not take it would be her choice.

Obviously, the UK, Bangladesh and her lawyers may all have different perspectives of this and therefore, as @JEBUS_LIVES mentioned, I expect it will go to court.

I think a couple of people who were actual dual nationals had their citizenship revoked got it back through the courts , my guess is that’s what’ll happen as this looks like it’s been planned on the back of fag packet.
 
That's what I read. From what I can tell, the view of the HO is that while she has not applied for citizenship, if she did then it must be granted without refusal.

Therefore is revoking her UK citizenship then leaving her stateless as she has the opportunity to receive Bangladeshi citizenship? To not take it would be her choice.

Obviously, the UK, Bangladesh and her lawyers may all have different perspectives of this and therefore, as @JEBUS_LIVES mentioned, I expect it will go to court.

The HO might look to rely on this decision, whichever has obvious parallels here.

The question will be if traveling to Syria to live under a particular regime nets the threshold of 'conducive to the public good' s40 British Nationality Act. The general rule is a crime or course of activity that has caused or will cause serious harm - which I'm not sure applied here.

Some further reading on the question of public interest in these matters.
 
I think a couple of people who were actual dual nationals had their citizenship revoked got it back through the courts , my guess is that’s what’ll happen as this looks like it’s been planned on the back of fag packet.
I have serious worries about what the implications are for foreign aid/Humanitarian assistance and also what it sets as precedence for the rights of the Home Secretary.

Slightly crude example, but let's say for instance you take a political group as 'terrorist' or a designated area as right for deprival - those potentially travelling to provide Humanitarian aid or other support in those countries could reasonably have their citizenship revoked.
 
No.

But it surely is illegal to join a terrorist organisation.
Not necessarily. Terrorist organisations are listed as prescribed groups, but it is varied as to the organisations on that list and the Terrorism Act 2000 defines the specific instances where conviction can occur. The new Act from February makes it an offence to travel to 'designated areas' but it cannot be retrospectively applied.

I'd be amazed if she wasn't charged on specific grounds by the Police - they'll have been keeping tabs on her time in Syria and before she travelled.
 
True, however does the fact that she seemed to view severed heads as " just one of those things " not strike you as a tiny bit worrying.
Well yes, but I find people supporting Liverpool worrying, doesn't mean they should have their rights removed.

You can't be prosecuted for what you think and the Met have previously stated that they do not think any terror offences have been committed.
 
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