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[dead_soft]

Did you read the post I quoted? He mentioned many people over here "feeling" the same as her, so I responded to that. How does that make no sense?

Because she hasn’t been found guilty of anything yet

 

[Ihaters]

So is she not a prisoner of war if she comes back to the UK?

She certainly would be, I am very much an advocate of her not being allowed back as, since I recently found out from a cleverer man than me, the law can be interpreted either way, I am in favor of her sleeping in the bed she made.

If she does return though, she genuinely needs to be tried as a traitor because she is.

Bringing her back and monitoring her after a desensitizing process as is being talked about in the media about would be nothing short of mental.

 

[dead_soft]

She certainly would be, I am very much an advocate of her not being allowed back as, since I recently found out from a cleverer man than me, the law can be interpreted either way, I am in favor of her sleeping in the bed she made.

If she does return though, she genuinely needs to be tried as a traitor because she is.

Bringing her back and monitoring her after a desensitizing process as is being talked about in the media about would be nothing short of mental.

‘Nothing short of mental’ - the well reasoned argument.

Please explain how the cleverer man interpreted the law to say she can be denied entry to the nation she’s a citizen of without creating any sort of precedent.

 

[Ihaters]

Because she hasn’t been found guilty of anything yet

Are you suggesting she didn't go over to Isis?

 

[Jebus_lives]

She certainly would be, I am very much an advocate of her not being allowed back as, since I recently found out from a cleverer man than me, the law can be interpreted either way, I am in favor of her sleeping in the bed she made.

If she does return though, she genuinely needs to be tried as a traitor because she is.

Bringing her back and monitoring her after a desensitizing process as is being talked about in the media about would be nothing short of mental.

She most certainly wouldn't be.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Are you suggesting she didn't go over to Isis?

Is this a crime that she can be convicted of under UK law?

 

[Ihaters]

Is this a crime that she can be convicted of under UK law?

Having firmly established my lack of lawyer credentials I would say I have found myself on shakey ground, but I suspect that heading off to join an enemy of your country has some legal ramifications surely?

 

[TraffordBlue]

No, you can view it however you want. If you want to strip a British citizen of her citizenship, leave her stateless, or condemn her to death, it needs to be via due process. It is not a hard concept to grasp.

Think you've jumped to a conclusion. I have condemned her decisions, but in previous posts I have also said:

"Needs locking up for a long time if she gets back here in my opinion."

"If she gets back to the UK I would hope she faces the full weight of whatever law is out there and if there isn't appropriate punishment for doing what she has done, there definitely should be."

Neither of my above 2 opinions change my view that she should be treated with disgust for the actions that she has chosen and that no trial is needed to deem her actions and personality as abhorrent.

 

[FC sexy xxx]

Yeah, how petty and bitter it is for people to be disgusted at the thought of some selfish woman who hates/hated our country, went off to join a murderous terrorist organisation, contributed to the deaths of 2 innocent young children, and now wants to come back. What a terrible conclusion for those of us who have that view.

Instead, we should get the open top bus parade ready...

Do you realise that she didn't leave the country to go on holiday so it's a bit different to just going abroad, making a minor mistake and then returning? Are you aware of what ISIS actually do or the crimes they commit?

Would you be full of the nonsense about open top bus parades to families of victims who have been executed by ISIS. Or executed by her murderous husband?

She thought she was going on a club 18-30 holiday all inclusive to Syria

 

[FC sexy xxx]

I hate our country.

its clear you aren’t the only one in this thread

 

[Jebus_lives]

Having firmly established my lack of lawyer credentials I would say I have found myself on shakey ground, but I suspect that heading off to join an enemy of your country has some legal ramifications surely?

Interesting that the new Counter-Terrorism and Border Security Act makes a specific law against traveling to designated areas which would be applicable in future instances, but cannot be retrospectively applied.

I'd also note the UK widened the counter terrorism strategy Prevent’s remit to cover the rehabilitation and disengagement of those already involved in terrorism, which would apply in this instance.

I'm not sure Terrorism Act would apply in this instance as she wouldn't meet any of the definitions defined in Section 1, maybe reliance on Treason Laws, but they haven't been in practical use for a long time.

 

[davmaher]

She may end up applying for Dutch citizenship as that is where her husband is from. Would be interesting to see how that pans out if it happens.

 

[Ihaters]

I take that bit of my argument back then.
How did we go from shooting traitors on sight to having no law against them at all?
We have laws on the appropriate depth a pothole can reach dependent on the classification of road before it requires maintenance, and the time lapse allowed before reaching this level, to when the hole gets fixed (I work in highways by the way), but nothing about p***ing off to a terrorist organisation and operating against your own country?

I'm even more convinced that we need to invoke the interpretation of the law whereby she doesn't return now. If she does there seems like there are no ramifications at all.

 

[Ihaters]

She may end up applying for Dutch citizenship as that is where her husband is from. Would be interesting to see how that pans out if it happens.

I think it will be interesting to see what happens all round tbh, there are around 150 women due to be coming back and a lot more men, I think I read about another 500 due to return from Isis.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I take that bit of my argument back then.
How did we go from shooting traitors on sight to having no law against them at all?
We have laws on the appropriate depth a pothole can reach dependent on the classification of road before it requires maintenance, and the time lapse allowed before reaching this level, to when the hole gets fixed (I work in highways by the way), but nothing about p***ing off to a terrorist organisation and operating against your own country?

I'm even more convinced that we need to invoke the interpretation of the law whereby she doesn't return now. If she does there seems like there are no ramifications at all.

This made me actually laugh out loud.