Are the hipster element of the fanbase holding us back?

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Bit of fun, but I’ve long been of the opinion they’re not healthy for Everton. Let me describe the profile:

16-36, will make out that any Everton player from the late 90s was better than any player from the Moyes era (despite most of them probably not even remembering the 90s). Andrei Kanchelksis is their idol and adorns their bedroom walls next to players from 90s Serie A teams.

They have a season ticket but genuinely resent home games, they turn up in a 90s Everton kit or a current away kit nearly always underneath a hoodie even in hot weather and stand there for the majority of the game with their arms folded in slight disappointment as though they’re above the whole idea of Everton at home with 40,000 other plebs. They will scowl at anyone who makes any sort of noise be it cheering, singing or booing as they regard all of this as kopite behaviour.

Oddly though they seem to have a strange fondness for that lot over the park and seem to revel in the idea that bigging them up makes them a better blue somehow. They’ll argue with you that Salah is the best in the world, they deserved to win in Kiev, and that they’ll challenge next season for no reason other than to be weird and hipster.

They loved Ross Barkley but hate Tom Davies (no idea why, he probably would be one of them if he wasnt playing). They won’t hear a word against Leighton Baines or Fellaini.

They live for certain away games where they’ll go and sing songs about certain players that they like (Cenk Tosun being the new hipster favourite) but none really about Everton, then will let off a flare for an equaliser in a 1-1 at Stoke as though we’ve won a cup or something. That one moment will be enough ‘Everton’ to sustain them for the whole season and will feature on all their social media. They seem to select certain ones as well, Sunderland away in the Cup was hipster central as was Nuremberg. They don’t seem to do London though.

For them they are so bothered about their personal hipster image that they don’t want to be associated with a successful team. If they accept kopite superiority willingly and knock Everton at every opportunity then no one can knock them when it inevitably goes wrong and, after all, they’ll never be able to take away that away trip to Turf Moor ‘scenes, limbs, pyro’ (whatever they seem to say when they celebrate other than ‘Everton’). They positively hate us challenging the top 4 or being in the media for anything other than some hipster story about Baines.

In short any successful club need fans who actually want success and want to compete. This element of the fanbase have no interest in this and must be crushed.

Now that Italy are not in the World Cup they’ll be supporting some edgy side like Croatia or Uruguay, and almost certainly anyone but England.

Why are you so precious about our fans? If they’re at the game, they’re supporting us. Can’t agree with anything whatsoever that you’ve posted in that. You obviously think your support is a level above most. Just watch the game instead of looking down your nose at everyone else and belittling their support. It’s more fans like you that are holding us back.
 
Miserable old fart here from ancient days.Hippie generation was mine when we had a fantastic team/teams wtf is a hipster?
 
Not sure about the group described but there are definitely groups on the forum aren’t there. For example:

- The Fifa fanboys. Can tell you everything about a player from the Ukrainian or Bulgarian top flight. Might even pretend to have an unspecific job ‘in football’.

- The stubborn. Just won’t change that opinion that Martinez was brilliant or that McFadden just needed a run at No 10, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

- The wildly deluded. Can’t believe we weren’t in for Salah last season and think Rashford and Martial are just desperate to come sign for the Blues.

- The Black and Whiters. Everyone and everything is absolutely amazing or absolutely terrible. Osman was the worst player in history and Barkley was the new Zidane.

- The complainers. Only log on if we’ve lost. Love to moan at everything about the club. The old owners, the new owners, the manager, the players, the fans. No-one is safe.

- The clique wannabee’s. Just log on for the social interaction. Will call people ‘fr@nd’ or change their avatar to impress people. Wait for others to tell them what their opinion is.
 
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Not sure about the group described but there are definitely groups on the forum aren’t there. For example:

- The Fifa fanboys. Can tell you everything about a player from the Ukrainian or Bulgarian top flight. Might even pretend to have an unspecific job ‘in football’.

- The stubborn. Just won’t change that opinion that Martinez was brilliant or that McFadden just needed a run at No 10, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

- The wildly deluded. Can’t believe we weren’t in for Salah last season and think Rashford and Martial are just desperate to come sign for the Blues.

- The Black and Whiters. Everyone and everything is absolutely amazing or absolutely terrible. Osman was the worst player in history and Barkley was the new Zidane.

- The complainers. Only log on if we’ve lost. Love to moan at everything about the club. The old owners, the new owners, the manager, the players, the fans. No-one is safe.

- The clique wannabee’s. Just log on for the social interaction. Will call people ‘fr@nd’ or change their avatar to impress people. Wait for others to tell them what their opinion is.
Which group would say that you are in mate ?
 
Not sure about the group described but there are definitely groups on the forum aren’t there. For example:

- The Fifa fanboys. Can tell you everything about a player from the Ukrainian or Bulgarian top flight. Might even pretend to have an unspecific job ‘in football’.

- The stubborn. Just won’t change that opinion that Martinez was brilliant or that McFadden just needed a run at No 10, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

- The wildly deluded. Can’t believe we weren’t in for Salah last season and think Rashford and Martial are just desperate to come sign for the Blues.

- The Black and Whiters. Everyone and everything is absolutely amazing or absolutely terrible. Osman was the worst player in history and Barkley was the new Zidane.

- The complainers. Only log on if we’ve lost. Love to moan at everything about the club. The old owners, the new owners, the manager, the players, the fans. No-one is safe.

- The clique wannabee’s. Just log on for the social interaction. Will call people ‘fr@nd’ or change their avatar to impress people. Wait for others to tell them what their opinion is.

Got me here mate.
 
So whatever a hipster is....how would that possibly have any affect on the mighty Ev's performance ? How would the personal preferences of percieved correct history ,computergames,coffee ,cloathing,beer and music affect our standing in the world of football? Would we rather be associated with 70s punk or 90s grunge? Maybe early Beatles,nice hair,pretty suits?
 
Not sure about the group described but there are definitely groups on the forum aren’t there. For example:

- The Fifa fanboys. Can tell you everything about a player from the Ukrainian or Bulgarian top flight. Might even pretend to have an unspecific job ‘in football’.

- The stubborn. Just won’t change that opinion that Martinez was brilliant or that McFadden just needed a run at No 10, no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary.

- The wildly deluded. Can’t believe we weren’t in for Salah last season and think Rashford and Martial are just desperate to come sign for the Blues.

- The Black and Whiters. Everyone and everything is absolutely amazing or absolutely terrible. Osman was the worst player in history and Barkley was the new Zidane.

- The complainers. Only log on if we’ve lost. Love to moan at everything about the club. The old owners, the new owners, the manager, the players, the fans. No-one is safe.

- The clique wannabee’s. Just log on for the social interaction. Will call people ‘fr@nd’ or change their avatar to impress people. Wait for others to tell them what their opinion is.

I like these guys a lot
 
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