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We have about 50 betting firms here and England was the top for the majority of them, and were even on the advertisements for EURO2024 bets.

I'm just pointing out it wasn't just the British bookies - they're very obvious and understandable.
Here in Germany, England were not the favourites. They were in the leading group with France and the hosts.
 

He should go Saudi, win a few leagues be called the Messiah then the FA will have him back for 2028 euros.

And we'll start a 38 Yr old Kane up top.

Cause the only way he's getting a top job in England is if Bum hag is gone by Xmas.
 
My combined England-Spain XI

Pickford

Carvajal
Stones
Laporte
Shaw

Rodri
Fabian

Yamal
Bellingham
Williams

Kane
That's based on the Euros though. If you picked on club form you'd have Foden and Saka ahead of Williams and Lamal every day. You could make a case for Rice too. None of them performed at their club level, while Kane was so bad the top scorer in all of Europe is being talked of as having to retire.
 

That's based on the Euros though. If you picked on club form you'd have Foden and Saka ahead of Williams and Lamal every day. You could make a case for Rice too. None of them performed at their club level, while Kane was so bad the top scorer in all of Europe is being talked of as having to retire.
There is no case for Rice. Foden and Saka yea maybe
 
That's based on the Euros though. If you picked on club form you'd have Foden and Saka ahead of Williams and Lamal every day. You could make a case for Rice too. None of them performed at their club level, while Kane was so bad the top scorer in all of Europe is being talked of as having to retire.

There is no case for Rice. Foden and Saka yea maybe
On paper perhaps. But Foden, bar the first half vs the Dutch, really disappointed for me. Rice was terrible at times. Spain had the form players, or rather, a manager who played form players. Olmo had a great tournament.
 
My grandsons U8 side is for competing, expressing talent and providing entertainment and fun.
Professional football is for winning. Winning well if possible but winning.
I completely disagree. Most international teams don't win international tournaments. A large amount of lunch is involved. Focus on performance playing good entertaining football band if trophies follow mores the better. I have taken absolutely no pleasure at all from watching England in tournament and I would have taken very little enjoyment from watching them scab their way to a tournament win because it senda out completely the wrong message in terms of type of football we should aspire to play
 

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