Del
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FFS how could I forget that they have more time off than the Queen
(Another) Teachers strike
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FFS how could I forget that they have more time off than the Queen
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Haha...I though I was in the main forum....couldn't believe what I was reading. I've edited my post. We'll have to agree to disagree on the teacher bit.... Can make an ace Tracy Island though.
Del
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Hahaha Is right lad
Blue Peter awaits mate!
tonyhorne
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Could go on all night answering that one. Basically, we as teachers agreed to pay more into pensions and have been doing so since 2006. As such our pension scheme is fully funded and will continue to be so. The government proposes to, in effect, use our contributions to fund shortfalls elsewhere. On average a retired teachers pension is currently 10 grand. Ten. We do not accept it is unreasonable to expect the current situation to, at least, stay the same.
On top of which, everyone is pretty cheesed off with Ofsted and the likes. Having the inspectors in is a little like a visit from the gestapo. Acting as stooges for the current secretary of state, they arrive, pronounce, and brand a school with no knowledge of the area it serves, no interest in how much the school may have already achieved and, often, no experience of teaching themselves. Teachers enjoy this sort of working atmosphere for an average salary of 30 grand.
Personally, I think we do an important job and it is vital that we do it well. The government seems to think it would help to make things as difficult and unpleasant as possible. I also hate striking but I understand the utter frustrations that lead colleagues to take industrial action.
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As good a job as many of them do, I wouldn't half mind their Salary-Working Conditions-Pension.
Del
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Are there any scabs who wont strike lad?
When you are in the staff room, do you call the students?
roydo
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It is not fully funded due to the Teachers contributions only though, the tax payer effectively covers any shortfalls. As such, and as your pension is fully guaranteed, and index linked, and provides spouse and dependents benefits, and generous death in service benefits, why would you be bothered if it wasnt "fully funded?" You will get your pension anyway.
Even if the average pension is £10k, (which I doubt), that would cost you in the region of £200-£250k if you wanted to, in effect, buy it from your own money, which I doubt is nowhere near the amount of your own personal contributions. Who do you think makes up the shortfall?
BTW, I have absolutely no beef with teachers, or any other public sector workers, but the garbage your union leaders trot out to you, about pensions in particular, and it seems, you keep getting taken in by it.
Then you aren't a very good teacher. State school teachers in mainstream schools get 12 weeks' holiday a year. And for the record, not many people even get thirty days holiday, so don't expect sympathy from those of us that work longer than you, for less money and less pension. Private schools average about 15 weeks' holiday a year; try applying to one of those.
And before you get all worked up: my partner is a teacher in a private school, and about half of the lads in my circle of friends teach in state schools, including PRUs. They are the only people I know who openly state that they are happy in their jobs and would not consider changing into another industry.
Consider this: the fees for the PGCE have TREBLED in the last two years due to the massive oversubscription for places. People leave other industries in their droves to become teachers due to the advantageous pay and benefits, but I have yet to meet a solicitor, barrister or judge who used to be a teacher.
Oh, and Roydo is bang on about your pension arrangements.
tonyhorne
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Ah, you are failing to take grade inflation into account. Two mistakes and it's an A star. At least.
tonyhorne
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That is the whole point. There isn't a shortfall. However, I accept that it is a circular argument as salary comes from taxation in the first place.
Many of us are not very impressed with the leaders of the unions either.
I stand by every fact in my original statement. I find it odd, though, that you dislike so many features of the pension scheme. These should be made available to more people not taken away from those who already pay for it.
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