windymiller
Player Valuation: £70m
His comment that it's a two window plan basically means that by 1st September his "plan" is complete. That was also a peculiar thing to say because, if we're in a similar position in a year's time, he will have essentially admitted that his plan has failed. It was an odd thing to say, and has put himself under unnecessary pressure, but I guess saying odd things is kind of his deal.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £70m
Or equally that plans change, so an opportunity such as the one which presented itself to ourselves this season, was infact a huge chance to qualify for Europe and be "ahead" of schedule. So being "happily dissatisfied", isn't justified.
So unless come September 1st passes and we've got a very solid squad, he's lost.
His lack of respect for the fanbase is truly staggering.
"... we needed to pivot from our plan towards the end of the 2026 summer transfer window due to difficulties in landing our top targets. We are hopefully of making further progression next season, building on a promising season way clear of any relegation threat in 2026."
BackRow PE6
Player Valuation: £2.5m
I’ve been happy allowing time before passing judgment on Kinnears footballing set up based on this being the first summer window where they have been in place long enough to plan.
Not interested in World Cup / no Europe excuses - both should have been planned for.
If it’s the right set up, we should see the obvious squad issues resolved. If not, then Kinnear has some serious questions to answer.
Not interested in World Cup / no Europe excuses - both should have been planned for.
If it’s the right set up, we should see the obvious squad issues resolved. If not, then Kinnear has some serious questions to answer.
A quarter of the posts in this thread have come since his disastrous programme notes ahead of the Sunderland game.
People weren’t thinking much about him before that.
What a massive own goal.
People weren’t thinking much about him before that.
What a massive own goal.
Richard Alex
Player Valuation: £8m
Think he’s in for a shock. This fanbase wants it’s gone, that’s it.
The same applies to the manager.
We may as well find new people now and save time.
You can’t kid Evertonians.
The same applies to the manager.
We may as well find new people now and save time.
You can’t kid Evertonians.
Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
Those programme notes were so revealing. That's the problem for Kinnear. Up to then, he was generally considered to be an empty suit. Those programme notes have shown him to be much worse: an agent of the status quo, an apologist for mediocrity, a gaslighter.
The fact that Leeds United have prospered without him suggests he's a ball and chain hanging off any ambition fans have. He's a spoofer who likes to dissemble through the use of weasel words: "happily dissatisfied", "compelling", "gourmet food options at the stadium", etc.
He might think he can pull the wool over the eyes of uneducated people with his corporate terminology and snake oil salesmanship, but he's underestimating the breadth of this fanbase.
Whatever about the manager, I wouldn't be shocked if he gets his cards before the year is out. If he shackles himself to the dead hand of Moyes, he's signing his own P45.
As much as anything, it was so dumb to offer his views on the conclusion of the season while there was still such variance possible in where we finished.
In the event, we did as badly as possible.
If we were in the Europa League, a phrase like ‘happily dissatisfied,’ would’ve dribbled away from the public consciousness. It might have even sounded ambitious.
But finishing where we did removes any semblance of ‘happily’ being appropriate.
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Drico
Player Valuation: £70m
True. It's also the fact that he seemed so keen to pre-empt and shape the narrative before the last two key matches of the season, no matter the likely outcome. It was clear before Sunderland that we were going to miss out. We still had a chance, but the direction of travel provided "compelling" evidence, as Angus might say. Yet, here he was trying to shut down legitimate reflection on how our season was panning out. It's clear they had decided to go all-in with Moyes and those pesky things called results had alarmed them enough to try to get ahead of the incoming fan fume.
But he badly misjudged it - and he may have overestimated the manager, who promptly let him down with a bang in the subsequent 1-3 capitulation.
The manner of our capitulation over the last seven games was entirely predictable. That's what those of us who have no time for Moyes have always felt in our bones would happen: he'll hit his head on his own self-installed glass ceiling. For Kinner to try to excuse this away simply alienated those who, let's face it, have been proven right about this manager.
When even The Esk is wondering how the Moyesiah can continue, it's game, set, and match. The argument for the status quo and stability has been routed. How Kinnear chooses to act on this reality will determine whether or not he is as transitional a figure as Moyes.
Yeah, I honestly don’t know what happens now.
I’m in the camp that’s worried about Moyes being given the budget and the reins to overhaul the squad in his image.
He spoke a year or so ago about how he was in a hurry to bring success.
If that was true then, he’d be viewing it even more urgently now.
Kinnear will also be wanting to prove to the fans that he’s serious by sanctioning as a big a spend as possible.
I’m really worried that we bring in a load of expensive, ‘experienced’ players who only join because we’re offering to overpay them.
It just feels like we’re headed for the same trouble all over again.
They've been doing ok for the last 40 years or so.
