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I'll take down dat coal powered MG, I tel u Hwat
Analysing his footballing ability aside, I'd drink his bath water.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Messi is pretty good.
Why? Because I don't think Gomes is AMAZING. He's a decent player. I never said he's trash.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
I will not argue that. His game is more stylish, too. He's lovely to watch. Smooth, slick, clever, absolutely a fan favorite. Lovely guy by all accounts, too. Easy to root for, happy he's at the club.
He can be in a mess, surrounded by opponents , yet he still stays cool and comes away with a pass to a teammate . Without breaking sweat . Never panics. and , as you say , he WANTS to be here
Messi is a steroid abusing midget playing in an inferior league.
I just get triggered by the way you talk in absolutes, despite what you say, you are judging him on last season alone, he was clearly good for Valencia, hence Barca spending 54m after add ons to buy him. No im not saying Barca have never bought a bad player, but he must have been somewhat impressive surely? I personally never watched him for Valencia, dont even recall him for Portugal. So im judging him solely on what my eyes saw last season. I saw him boss some games, I saw him go AWOL in others.
IMO thats quite normal for most players in their first season in this league, especially players with a lot of injuries.
I saw enough to get excited, I did think the "Best player since Arteta" shouts were a bit silly, but then if you think, we havent had a player like Arteta for a long time, even before Arteta. So im excited for what he can bring, I think hes a very good player, he can dribble, he can pass and he can get stuck in, I dont care that the stats tell me how he conceded fouls or his smart pass rate was low or even that his movement in transition was lacking. None of that matters to me, the majority of the fanbase, Marco Silva or Marcel Brands, so I consider myself in very good company in saying that Andre Gomes can play football and play it very well.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
He's outstanding under pressure. Great dribbler, wonderful ball control. Helps us build from the back when in possession well. No question. These are very important traits in the modern game.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
And I get triggered by the absurd ideas spit out that are objectively not true.
I also appreciate that you are willing to have dialog, rather than just say "football's not for you". That's not cool to me. I personally don't write anything on a message board I wouldn't say to someone's face and don't see the point of even bothering to type that garbage. But people want to hide behind their keyboards, that's up to them.
Now about Gomes, people get ticked off that I am critical of the guy. I was the one that brought him up first about coming here. I like the player, he's terrific to watch. I don't hate him or think he's crap. It's just like Sigurdsson and Gana, just the opposite. They are good players that it's perfectly FINE to criticize and I get crap for defending them. It's not about like or dislike, it's about whether or not they help us WIN MORE GAMES. It's okay to like a player and yet be able to judge them objectively.
I also never said he couldn't improve. Quite the opposite, I assume he can and will. But I have more faith in his ability to improve in the final third than I do in his own defensive half. Yet with Sigurdsson playing the most advanced of our midfielders, he's not going to get as many final 3rd chances, unless we change a bit how we play. He was good at Valencia. I recall him being a threat to score and more dominant and/or effective in the final third.
So I can see him getting a bit more familiar with Silva's tactics and picking off a few more passes. Maybe he'll get more comfortable and we'll see a few more longer passes and/or entry passes into the final third. I hope so. He's easy to root for.
But I'm not saying he stinks. That's what I don't understand. I said he's probably worth the 20M to 25M. I don't think he's a great fit with Gana and Sigurdsson, I think he'd be a great option off the bench or as a spot starter in the right tactic. He could even be better than that.
You see I agree with the Gana and Iceland part, both are very good players, but I have no idea how the system worked so well with them both, its quite an unbalanced midfield in a way. I think all 3 bring different things to the table, but if you asked me would I prefer a different 3? A different kind, probably, but for me Gomes is the 1 that excites me the most.
Maybe cos hes "new" to me, ive seen what Iceland and Gana can do and whilst they are both effective, they dont really excite me, im sure you know what I mean.
I mean saying hes worth 20m to 25m is quite insulting, in a market in which Solanke and Ings can go for the same money? I think we have got a cracking player at a cracking price and if he improves his consistency and other areas he really could be a steal.
BirkenheadBlue
Player Valuation: £70m
He’s a steal even if he improves nothing.
If he gets significantly better the deal is absolute daylight robbery
Can we start North Korea'ing folks who don't rate Gomes, Bernard, or Pickford pls
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £90m
If all our players were as good as people say they are on here why did we finish 8th? I don't think criticism of any of our players is unfair at this point.
Against the wall
TheBigIguana
Player Valuation: £90m
I'm just saying no one we have is perfect. Very few are even CL level at the moment. Thinking about it quickly I probably couldn't find a flaw in Digne but that's probably it. It's the middle of the summer and we haven't played a game in months. There isn't any reason we can't say so and so could do this better while nothing else is happening.
Blue Juice
Player Valuation: £25m
This summer break is slowly developing into a crescendo of straighteners the likes of which GOT has never seen. Every day is a wonder.
A man of such great beauty will always be fought over I guess
A man of such great beauty will always be fought over I guess
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