And to think, it was barely a half-season ago people were calling him a £80m midfielder just because Chelsea were buying every player in the world for bonkers bucks.
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89 minutes of anonymity, 1 minute of looking like the best kid in the playground. Can't build a career on playing in moments.
Charlie Sweet
Player Valuation: £35m
Hey but apparently many think he's a superstar in waiting.
Blue Roo
Player Valuation: £20m
Onana's a difficult one in terms of the greater dynamics in play.
Dyche has a very difficult job trying get all he can out of a thin, unbalanced and under par PL quality squad.
And in trying to get everything he can out of the qualities of the squad, and in trying to raise the mindset/belief/realism of the team its probably contrary to the development of Onana.
For me Onana is best played as The CDM with two CMs either side, with a back 4 behind (451 with this squad) It's probably the best and quickest way of developing - the sense of central positioning and how to be smart and patient in support knowing when to impose and dictate.
He's no way near the dictating part. That will hopefully come to him. But he doesn't need to right now.
Ideally, for now, he's holding the central defensive space, blocking passing lines and giving the CBs their orientation,
directing opposition play away from his space without getting drawn out, and do what he's best at (within that space) breaking down play with skill and physical presence.
He'd have Jimmy and Doucs/Gomes to lay to, to get things moving (rather than trying to dictate the play himself - which should always give one or two moments a match when he sees that more attacking pass, rather than at the moment forcing a pass).
He needs to be in a position where the game come to him, where he can take those moments by the scruff of the neck rather than trying to chase that feel.
He also looks much more comfortable on the ball in that position.
Problem is it looks at the moment like this all gets lost for the greater needs of the team.
Question is, which overall is better for the team.
The same applies to Branthwaite in that he is much better in a back 4 (and Tarks).
Dyche has a very difficult job trying get all he can out of a thin, unbalanced and under par PL quality squad.
And in trying to get everything he can out of the qualities of the squad, and in trying to raise the mindset/belief/realism of the team its probably contrary to the development of Onana.
For me Onana is best played as The CDM with two CMs either side, with a back 4 behind (451 with this squad) It's probably the best and quickest way of developing - the sense of central positioning and how to be smart and patient in support knowing when to impose and dictate.
He's no way near the dictating part. That will hopefully come to him. But he doesn't need to right now.
Ideally, for now, he's holding the central defensive space, blocking passing lines and giving the CBs their orientation,
directing opposition play away from his space without getting drawn out, and do what he's best at (within that space) breaking down play with skill and physical presence.
He'd have Jimmy and Doucs/Gomes to lay to, to get things moving (rather than trying to dictate the play himself - which should always give one or two moments a match when he sees that more attacking pass, rather than at the moment forcing a pass).
He needs to be in a position where the game come to him, where he can take those moments by the scruff of the neck rather than trying to chase that feel.
He also looks much more comfortable on the ball in that position.
Problem is it looks at the moment like this all gets lost for the greater needs of the team.
Question is, which overall is better for the team.
The same applies to Branthwaite in that he is much better in a back 4 (and Tarks).
This is the sort of stuff that is hard to take seriously, just outrageous lies based on some bizarre agenda. Nothing objective about this level of post.
Where do you think he will be in 5 years, if you could answer without trolling.
Turkey.
Bookmarked incase we are both still alive in 5 years
We wont be.
He will move to a decent club in the Summer, but then will constantly move downwards till he shows up at Gala or Bestikas in 5 years time.
He lacks the application to be a really top player.
Could you expand on that?
It's perfectly objective to say the lad plays in moments, but I guess any opinion that he drifts though games and is not particularly a stand out player must just be 'lies' and an 'agenda'. It's clearly so very obvious, isn't it.
Hes like the kid at school that had the new and expensive boots that he doesnt want to get dirty.
To say he does nothing for 89 minutes or is anonymous in that that time is simply not true based on his stats. His recoveries, tackles, passes forward, headers won and ground covered.It's perfectly objective to say the lad plays in moments, but I guess any opinion that he drifts though games and is not particularly a stand out player must just be 'lies' and an 'agenda'. It's clearly so very obvious, isn't it.
To say he drifts through games is definately an objective opinion, I personally don't agree with it, but its far better than the nonsense written by those who only post if they can slate him. The lads who disappeared from this thread for a good few months and are now posting hyperbolic tosh. That would be what I would consider an agenda or pre-concieved opinion.
It's the same in a lot of player threads to be fair. Though @Goat above posts in the good times and bad , I disagree with his take but its definately an objective one. Others want to see a player fail to feel right.
errr.....
I think hes a good player for us, but I still feel as tho he plays within himself, I want to see more from him.
But hes a rare success story, a player we will sell for a profit, so im not gonna slate the lad, cos hes without question 1 of the first names on our team sheet.
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