Shevin Keedy
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And yet you suggest carpet bombing Pakistan.
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peteblue
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Trump was wrong, no issue, but Biden reversed many of Trumps policies but not this one. Biden always wanted out and just followed the script while totally screwing it all up. There is no defence for Biden, it was his decision and his alone. He dropped everybody, including his allies, into the brown stuff. There is no comeback from this….
peteblue
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See above….
peteblue
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We should not have pulled out. There would have been no need for anyone to leave….
I agree with all of that. I'll do a longer post with my full views at some point, but we were not winning this war. It's easy to blame the Afganis, but we were losing the war, and badly "losing the peace".
Labour did yes, and it was probably Labours biggest mistake. In fairness the Conservatives supported the decision, and have continued the policy. So they are both mired in this.
There have to be serious questions asked as to where the 2 trillion dollars has gone, over 20 years. Its endemic corruption mate, at every level, and whether we like it or not, we have played a part in that. I'm not saying it's all down to the UK army, or most is, but it is one factor. The aid just hasnt found it's way outside of the urban centres.
We can certainly move to allocate funds better. But in the short term, 5k a year refugees is just not going to be enough. In my view, any woman or girl who wants to be educated should be able to do so. I think that's a base standard. This could be millions of people. The figures need to change radically.
FWIW I think the "deal" between the Taliban and the US is currently no terrorist attacks in exchange for aid. I'd say they could leverage a lot more than that.
I suspect Rabb was too busy enjoying his summer holidays to know the problems were building. I mean you couldn't really write it could you?
I think there will be a lot of back and forth re Trump V Biden (probably like Labour v Tories). My position is they are all culpable.
I'm not one for defending Trump and Biden, but they were losing. More American soldiers were injured/dying than were joining up. The Taliban already control large swathes of the country. Due to a multitude of mistakes neither had a great hand.
To me it is very feasible, the Taliban may have matched on Kabul and kicked the US out. That would have been awful. This is bad, but can be spun as not being a defeat (though it is) but them having their backsides given to them would have been far worse. I think Trump and Biden recognised it.
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Just when you think these jokers couldn't mess up anymore, they prove you wrong and come up with new ways to show how incompetent they really are.
peteblue
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This empty vessel is a disgrace to the American people…
He was asleep at the wheel, but was merely a bit part player in an American production…personally I’d give him a good kicking…
He was asleep at the wheel, but was merely a bit part player in an American production…personally I’d give him a good kicking…
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No American soldier has been killed in Afganistan in the past 18 months mate
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-american-troops-not-die-afghanistan-year-last-us-death
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It would be rather more than that.
How many have been injured and/or finished service?
It is my understanding they have wound down a lot of front line service ups as well?
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It would be rather more than that.
I would suggest the above needs to be overhauled.
If we believe women/girls deserve access to education without fear of reprisals, then that system cant stay can it.
Most of those working for the UK are men. It's almost like you're just making things up.
peteblue
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The Taliban were under control. Neither the US nor U.K. were undertaking offensive actions, military deaths were non existent for 18 months. The Allies, of which there were actually very few, merely provided the backbone and air support to the Afghan army (who were taking any hits). As has been said, there were as many US military in Spain as in Afghanistan. It was a nonsense to pull them out…..
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