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Massive cojones on the aircrew
peteblue
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Deals have been done. Military planes will not be bothered, civil aircraft cannot move. But if you mean the guys who took away the 800, I totally agree…..
Bit puzzled as to what Biden means by evacuating “vulnerable citizens”.
Unless he means they’re going to evacuate over half the population
Unless he means they’re going to evacuate over half the population
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‘There are no women in the streets’ – the day life changed in Kabul
In the Afghan capital women stayed home in fear of being beaten by the Taliban for not covering themselves
peteblue
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Bit puzzled as to what Biden means by evacuating “vulnerable citizens”.
Unless he means they’re going to evacuate over half the population
And that’s just the females…..
Biden can be criticised for what is happening now (or his intelligence community should).
However what where his options? If he broke the deal Trump made then the ceasefire would break down, the Taliban kick off and more troops are sent over to carry on the fight.
However what where his options? If he broke the deal Trump made then the ceasefire would break down, the Taliban kick off and more troops are sent over to carry on the fight.
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peteblue
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Originally thought to be 800 - turned out on landing to be 640. The C-17 is specced to carry 120 and has only ever once before carried 300 but never this many.
Radio transcript between the RCH 871 and ATC.
peteblue
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If he broke the deal, the Taliban could have done sod all. They could come out and been eliminated or stayed hidden away for another 20-30 years…..
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What the papers say….
”As the crisis deepened, a CNN columnist said the 'debacle of the US defeat and chaotic retreat in Afghanistan' was a 'political disaster' for the US President and slammed his 'failure to orchestrate an urgent and orderly exit'.
And an opinion writer in The Atlantic said there was enough blame attached for the Afghanistan crisis to 'fill a library of books', condemning the 'betrayal' of the Afghan people as he placed the 'burden of shame' on Biden.
Meanwhile a New York Post editorial said Biden's claims that he 'inherited' his predecessor Donald Trump's withdrawal plans were a 'lie' and the situation is 'as humiliating an end as the rooftop scramble in Saigon in 1975'.
An opinion piece in The New York Times claimed that Biden would 'go down in history, fairly or unfairly, as the president who presided over a long-brewing, humiliating final act in the American experiment in Afghanistan'.
A Washington Post column said the situation 'is on Biden, and it will leave an indelible stain on his presidency', while a piece in USA Today said 'this catastrophe is appearing on his watch, and he will have to take his lumps'.
Fox News ran a comment from Republican Senator Joni Ernst condemning the 'slap in the face to the thousands of men and women who served in this war' and a 'total abandonment of a country and its people' by Biden.
Columnists in the British Press also hit out at Biden today, with The Sun's editorial saying he 'ignored repeated warnings, then withdrew crucial air support for the Afghan army it has spent billions arming over 20 years'.
Commons Foreign Affairs Committee chair Tom Tugendhat wrote in The Times that it was the 'the biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez' in 1957, while a columnist for the i condemned the 'betrayal of Afghanistan's people'.
The Financial Times said the 'abandonment of Afghanistan raises doubts over the depth of US commitment to supposed allies', while Mark Almond wrote in the Daily Mail that Islamist fundamentalism is now 'back on a roll'.
”As the crisis deepened, a CNN columnist said the 'debacle of the US defeat and chaotic retreat in Afghanistan' was a 'political disaster' for the US President and slammed his 'failure to orchestrate an urgent and orderly exit'.
And an opinion writer in The Atlantic said there was enough blame attached for the Afghanistan crisis to 'fill a library of books', condemning the 'betrayal' of the Afghan people as he placed the 'burden of shame' on Biden.
Meanwhile a New York Post editorial said Biden's claims that he 'inherited' his predecessor Donald Trump's withdrawal plans were a 'lie' and the situation is 'as humiliating an end as the rooftop scramble in Saigon in 1975'.
An opinion piece in The New York Times claimed that Biden would 'go down in history, fairly or unfairly, as the president who presided over a long-brewing, humiliating final act in the American experiment in Afghanistan'.
A Washington Post column said the situation 'is on Biden, and it will leave an indelible stain on his presidency', while a piece in USA Today said 'this catastrophe is appearing on his watch, and he will have to take his lumps'.
Fox News ran a comment from Republican Senator Joni Ernst condemning the 'slap in the face to the thousands of men and women who served in this war' and a 'total abandonment of a country and its people' by Biden.
Columnists in the British Press also hit out at Biden today, with The Sun's editorial saying he 'ignored repeated warnings, then withdrew crucial air support for the Afghan army it has spent billions arming over 20 years'.
Commons Foreign Affairs Committee chair Tom Tugendhat wrote in The Times that it was the 'the biggest foreign policy disaster since Suez' in 1957, while a columnist for the i condemned the 'betrayal of Afghanistan's people'.
The Financial Times said the 'abandonment of Afghanistan raises doubts over the depth of US commitment to supposed allies', while Mark Almond wrote in the Daily Mail that Islamist fundamentalism is now 'back on a roll'.
Airbridge re-opened. The evac resumes
Well thats the whole point isnt it.
When do you pull out? Or do you keep sending soldiers over for another 20 years? The Taliban will grow and wait us out or carry on the war - but that option means more soldiers fighting an unnecessary war. Thats the point Biden was making.
Shocking error of judgement by the intelligence community and or Biden whats happening now though
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