2017/18 Ademola Lookman

[Stephenlloyd]

To be fair Allardyce never said he was crap, he said he wasn’t what we needed at the moment. I took that to mean, in the context of Sam’s other interviews at the time, people who will scrap and battle to get us out and away from the relegation zone. The lad doesn’t work hard enough defensively, he has been picked up on this in Germany by the coach, and we aren’t good enough to play with 10 1/2 men on the pitch.

We’ve had bolasie on the pitch for 2 months

 

[Bruce Wayne]

To be fair Allardyce never said he was crap, he said he wasn’t what we needed at the moment. I took that to mean, in the context of Sam’s other interviews at the time, people who will scrap and battle to get us out and away from the relegation zone. The lad doesn’t work hard enough defensively, he has been picked up on this in Germany by the coach, and we aren’t good enough to play with 10 1/2 men on the pitch.

Makes you wonder why we sold Lennon then really as he was ace at running about.

 

[jceverton]

Spot on
This was the same guy. Who 6 weeks ago said sam can go on to be our general manager lol.
To be fair to @blueblue he seemed to have changed his tune last week and wanted Sam gone.

I’f he does stay abd I won’t him gone 100% absolutely despise the man, there is no way he’s giving youngsters time to bed in next season. With 1 year on his contract he will buy tried and tested. 28 to 30 will be the age bracket. And when it goes tits up we will be left with an old very expensive squad.

This is so obvious that really it shouldn’t need to be said! When you’re only doing short term appointments there is absolutely no way a manager is going to give younger players a chance. Allardyce though wouldn’t give younger players a chance if he was here for next five years.

 

[Barnfred 55]

No surprise though mate, clear as day based on Allardyce’s track record that as soon as he could younger players would be sidelined. Just hope to god we’ve got a young progressive manager lined up to come in as soon as the seasons finished. No way should we be selling Lookman. This whole situation sums him up, he’s a footballing Neanderthal who should never have darkened our doorstep!

He has done everything I expected of him when we appointed him, with the exception of transfers where the 2 brought in seem ok.

Somebody on here at the time, it may have been Tim Cahill, asked me what Allardyce had done to me for me to hate him so much. He, and a few others really didnt see it.

This Lookman business is all his own fault. Forget the ridiculous decision to send him on loan in the first place. He could have let him go to RBL and have taken the credit if it turned out well, or blamed the kid if it didnt. You know, the usual stuff. But his ego wouldnt let him because the boy had the audacity to go against his wishes. So he publically disses him fully expecting him to fail. The lad does ok so reportets bring his name up now and again at pressers and you can see by his face he absolutely hates this situation. So he tries to blag it that he's getting no game time so he was proved right, when everyone knows thats a load of bull. Through all this he's both tarnishing the clubs image and alienating the player even more.

The guys ego is probably his worst trait anf even I didnt realise how bad it is. I believe he may even be a sociopath.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Makes you wonder why we sold Lennon then really as he was ace at running about.

And why he insists on playing Bolasie.

 

[Tel001]

So he was homesick north, but he’s not in Germany where he doesn’t even speak the language?

Probably being made to feel welcome in Germany and involved and therefore not feeling homesick... compared to being told he's not gonna play and that he should go to derby to sort himself out ...

 

[n01efc]

Makes you wonder why we sold Lennon then really as he was ace at running about.

I agree, but he couldn’t get rid of Bolasie as he had been out injured, Vlasic had just joined, so he choose Kev and Lookman to help cut the squad numbers. Rightly or wrongly that may have been.

 

[davids]

He has done everything I expected of him when we appointed him, with the exception of transfers where the 2 brought in seem ok.

Somebody on here at the time, it may have been Tim Cahill, asked me what Allardyce had done to me for me to hate him so much. He, and a few others really didnt see it.

This Lookman business is all his own fault. Forget the ridiculous decision to send him on loan in the first place. He could have let him go to RBL and have taken the credit if it turned out well, or blamed the kid if it didnt. You know, the usual stuff. But his ego wouldnt let him because the boy had the audacity to go against his wishes. So he publically disses him fully expecting him to fail. The lad does ok so reportets bring his name up now and again at pressers and you can see by his face he absolutely hates this situation. So he tries to blag it that he's getting no game time so he was proved right, when everyone knows thats a load of bull. Through all this he's both tarnishing the clubs image and alienating the player even more.

The guys ego is probably his worst trait anf even I didnt realise how bad it is. I believe he may even be a sociopath.

And your level of training in clinical psychology is?

 

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[Barnfred 55]

And your level of training in clinical psychology is?

Training zero. Practical experience, an ex business partner that has largely ruined my life as well as costing me most of my life savings. I learnt about sociopaths the hard way my friend and there are traits in Allardyces personality that are common in them.

 

[Dymak]

He has done everything I expected of him when we appointed him, with the exception of transfers where the 2 brought in seem ok.

Somebody on here at the time, it may have been Tim Cahill, asked me what Allardyce had done to me for me to hate him so much. He, and a few others really didnt see it.

This Lookman business is all his own fault. Forget the ridiculous decision to send him on loan in the first place. He could have let him go to RBL and have taken the credit if it turned out well, or blamed the kid if it didnt. You know, the usual stuff. But his ego wouldnt let him because the boy had the audacity to go against his wishes. So he publically disses him fully expecting him to fail. The lad does ok so reportets bring his name up now and again at pressers and you can see by his face he absolutely hates this situation. So he tries to blag it that he's getting no game time so he was proved right, when everyone knows thats a load of bull. Through all this he's both tarnishing the clubs image and alienating the player even more.

The guys ego is probably his worst trait anf even I didnt realise how bad it is. I believe he may even be a sociopath.

I think you are being melodramatic tbh.

So he disagreed with a young player on his loan destination, citing fears that he would get a lack of game time there, and he has been proven correct. I could see the likes of Moyes and other managers having the exact same outlook and disagreement with a young player like Lookman. He would have got a lot more playing time at Derby County, and a loan to Derby would have been perfectly fine for him at this stage of his career.

As for your diagnosis of sociopathy, I don't think being an egotistical football manager that is thick skinned and hard faced meets the criteria for such a diagnosis. If it does, then most of the managers in the league are living with such a diagnosis. In fact, such personality traits would be included in the person specification for the job of a football manager.

He has a remarkably clean criminal record for a sociopath. No arrests, no assaults, no fraud, buggery, rape, or murder. In fact his biggest crime seems to be playing a defensive brand of football that has proven successful in preventing clubs from being relegated.

He may lack some empathy in subjecting people to boring football but I don't think that constitutes sociopathy tbh.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I think you are being melodramatic tbh.

So he disagreed with a young player on his loan destination, citing fears that he would get a lack of game time there, and he has been proven correct. I could see the likes of Moyes and other managers having the exact same outlook and disagreement with a young player like Lookman. He would have got a lot more playing time at Derby County, and a loan to Derby would have been perfectly fine for him at this stage of his career.

As for your diagnosis of sociopathy, I don't think being an egotistical football manager that is thick skinned and hard faced meets the criteria for such a diagnosis. If it does, then most of the managers in the league are living with such a diagnosis. In fact, such personality traits would be included in the person specification for the job of a football manager.

He has a remarkably clean criminal record for a sociopath. No arrests, no assaults, no fraud, buggery, rape, or murder. In fact his biggest crime seems to be playing a defensive brand of football that has proven successful in preventing clubs from being relegated.

He may lack some empathy in subjecting people to boring football but I don't think that constitutes sociopathy tbh.

Ok I agree that I probably got a bit carried away with myself.

However I would add two things. Firstly, Allardyce does indeed have many personality traits that are common place in sociopaths. And when I say many, I could probably come up with at least a dozen if I tried hard enough. Secondly, many sociopaths lead normal lives and most casual acquaintances will even consider them good blokes/lasses. Many are able to control the more sinister traits associated with sociopathy, which only really come to the surface when they are backed upto a wall. Allardyce is a very wealthy individual and is extremely unlikely to ever be in that position.

You seem to be putting him in the same bracket as most football managers (apologies if I got that wrong) but I disagree with that entirely. His ego is on an entirely different level.

 

[Dymak]

Ok I agree that I probably got a bit carried away with myself.

However I would add two things. Firstly, Allardyce does indeed have many personality traits that are common place in sociopaths. And when I say many, I could probably come up with at least a dozen if I tried hard enough. Secondly, many sociopaths lead normal lives and most casual acquaintances will even consider them good blokes/lasses. Many are able to control the more sinister traits associated with sociopathy, which only really come to the surface when they are backed upto a wall. Allardyce is a very wealthy individual and is extremely unlikely to ever be in that position.

You seem to be putting him in the same bracket as most football managers (apologies if I got that wrong) but I disagree with that entirely. His ego is on an entirely different level.

Koeman's ego was worse. He was also far more anti-social. I don't think Koeman is a sociopath either. An arsehole, yes. Sociopath, no.

 

[davids]

Ok I agree that I probably got a bit carried away with myself.

However I would add two things. Firstly, Allardyce does indeed have many personality traits that are common place in sociopaths. And when I say many, I could probably come up with at least a dozen if I tried hard enough. Secondly, many sociopaths lead normal lives and most casual acquaintances will even consider them good blokes/lasses. Many are able to control the more sinister traits associated with sociopathy, which only really come to the surface when they are backed upto a wall. Allardyce is a very wealthy individual and is extremely unlikely to ever be in that position.

You seem to be putting him in the same bracket as most football managers (apologies if I got that wrong) but I disagree with that entirely. His ego is on an entirely different level.

The online questionnaires on how to recognise a sociopath would probably make us all look in the mirror,a real diagnosis can only be made by someone with training and years of experience.And your highlighted remark is rubbish as a real sociopath is not aware of his or her condition.

 

[billyblue80]

The lad won't want to come back if Fat head is still here, he won't give him a chance and has bad mouthed him. Another reason to sack him.