2025/26 Adam Aznou

Well I'll keep believing footballers need rhythm and the trust of the manager to maximise their ability and potential as its a fairly obvious thing in all walks of life where if you have the belief of your superiors and find a rhythm knowing you can make mistakes without being dropped from a football team or being demoted or sacked from your job then you'll have the confidence to show your qualities and ultimately impress the people who lay judgement on you

Okay, I'll keep believing that he turned out to be a crap player. Plenty of players get dropped and don't plummet to the depths that he did.

Professional footballers don't need babysitting. The top players have the mentality, the decent players have the mentality, even a lot of the mediocre ones have the mentality. It's a cut throat business mate, and he obviously didn't have the tools to succeed.
 
Proof as you say will be in the future but football fans aren't patient so like to write players off as flops without giving them the chance to settle in and find their way at a football club
Absolutely, but I doubt the club listens to armchair fans when it comes to picking the side, I don't think anyone will be correct on how our younger players are being handled until after the fact, for me after years of trying to buy success and ending up an absolute mess I'm happy for a slower more patient model but I realise there's other takes on how this club should operate.
 
Okay, I'll keep believing that he turned out to be a crap player. Plenty of players get dropped and don't plummet to the depths that he did.

Proffesional footballers don't need babysitting. The top players have the mentality, the decent players have the mentality, even the mediocre ones have the mentality. It's a cut throat business mate, and he obviously didn't have the tools to succeed.
I'd say Jeffers was a combination of moving too young, not having the faith of Wenger, injuries (his ankles were a constant problem) and ultimately as you say not having the right mentality for the cut throat industry of top flight football
 
Absolutely, but I doubt the club listens to armchair fans when it comes to picking the side, I don't think anyone will be correct on how our younger players are being handled until after the fact, for me after years of trying to buy success and ending up an absolute mess I'm happy for a slower more patient model but I realise there's other takes on how this club should operate.
It's the way forward for us I agree
 
Absolutely, but I doubt the club listens to armchair fans when it comes to picking the side, I don't think anyone will be correct on how our younger players are being handled until after the fact, for me after years of trying to buy success and ending up an absolute mess I'm happy for a slower more patient model but I realise there's other takes on how this club should operate.
I agree but there's a middle ground we strive further away from with every young player we buy currently - yeah patience is fine, but they also need to play to get the experience. They'll be raw, they'll make a mistake here and there (just like anyone) and learn from it, as it goes; we can't/shouldn't be waiting for years for a player to play his first substantial amount of minutes. What are Aznou, Dibling, George getting by training with the first team and playing for 3-10 min every few weeks (if at all)?

It's the same reason we (as a collective fanbase) are always absolutely stumped when anyone else produces a 18-19 year old who does well - yeah, he's playing, if he's got a modicum of talent it will show, and he's already training/being around PL players, the next logical progressive step is to play in the PL, not benchwarm. A loan to the Championship/abroad will be better than this, honestly - Armstrong came back looking more solid too. Downside to this for us (currently) is that the squad is thin and Moyes is afraid (rightly or wrongly is a game of opinions) of having to recall players, or needing them down the line, but Aznou being 3rd/4th choice at his own position makes this a sort of moot point in his case.
 
I'd say Jeffers was a combination of moving too young, not having the faith of Wenger, injuries (his ankles were a constant problem) and ultimately as you say not having the right mentality for the cut throat industry of top flight football

Fair points. He turned out to not even be able to cut it in the Championship and SPL though.

As I've alread said, I'm not here to lay in to him, I just woudn't listen to his excuses. His career went down the pan because he stopped performing. Nothing more, nothing less. Hard luck Franny, but at least you made a few million along the way. Leave the hard luck stories at the door.
 
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Fair points. He turned out to not even be able to cut it in the Championship and SPL though.

As I've alread said, I'm not here to lay in to him, I just woudn't listen to his excuses. His career went down the pan because he stopped performing. Nothing more, nothing less. Hard Luck Franny, but at least you made a few million along the way. Leave the hard luck stories at the door.
It's not just him who's said it, I've heard sports people in general say the same thing. Psychology is a very overlooked part of sport after all. Take snooker you have Ronnie O'Sullivan who's had his ups and downs and with a sounder mental game would of most likely won 10 plus world championships and you have Stephen Hendry who was the ultimate in winning mentality who dominated an era because of how mentally relentless he was
 
It's not just him who's said it, I've heard sports people in general say the same thing. Psychology is a very overlooked part of sport after all. Take snooker you have Ronnie O'Sullivan who's had his ups and downs and with a sounder mental game would of most likely won 10 plus world championships and you have Stephen Hendry who was the ultimate in winning mentality who dominated an era because of how mentally relentless he was

Yeah, and Willie Thorne, famously, would beat anybody on a practice table. Nobody really gives a crap mate. It's put or shut up in professional sport.
 
That is why players like Gazza didnt hit the heights they should have.

They need guidance and help.

Well, yeah, to a degree. But I'm pretty sure that any management and coaching team worth their salt are there to give guidance and help. Players need to take responsibility too though. It's a cut throat industry and the help and guidance should help players squeeze an extra few percent out, not magically transform them from league 2 players to prem level.
 
He has today. But the next game we're crying out for some dynamism and pace or Mykolenko has a shocker or we're playing our best CB out of position and we lose - the same question will be asked about why he won't play Aznou.
There's always something wrong. I want to see more of Rohl myself. I don't think these guys are ready just yet, we've ruined our academy over the years and left it to rot so we've had to buy younger players in and allow them to adapt to the club and English football, and if it takes 12 months or more while we build stability in the league and look for Europe so be it, this rubbish about needing to play matches is a fallacy attached to 80s and 90s thinking, they play competitive football day in day out. It's worth noting some members on here watch U21s and said Aznou was pants.
 

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