6 + 2 Point Deductions

Based on their new timeline it's 1 month for the appeal to be processed.

Our first appeal was back in November and we're in January now.

Bit mad what the PL are doing.
If they knew the new timeline said one month for appeals to be processed, and presumably realised they might need to process multiple cases at the same time, why didn't they deal with our original appeal within a month?
 

If they knew the new timeline said one month for appeals to be processed, and presumably realised they might need to process multiple cases at the same time, why didn't they deal with our original appeal within a month?

They genuinely used “meh, Christmas innit” as an excuse.
 
Bournemouth are an interesting case in that they have ambitions to build a new stadium at Matchams ( if any of you know the geography) was suggested but little has been said for a while almost certainly the cost of circa £500 million is too rich but it’s worth taking time to look at the vast majority of current or past PL clubs current situation a year or two after they built a new stadium because history suggests that in balance a new build stadium, funded by the club, isn’t quite all its cracked up to be
A total of 50 clubs have been in the PL since its formation 22 had new stadia
Reading, Barnsley, Middlesbrough,Coventry , Hull, Southampton, Wigan, Bolton, Swansea, Huddersfield,Cardiff ,Derby, Middlesbrough, Stoke, Sunderland and Leicester . 16 in number are no longer members .
So by default 6 still are.
Brighton are doing well but their owner is owed circa £300 million and that’s despite huge transfer income
Brentford are 2 years into their new stadium they have done well to date but let’s see assess them in a season or two.
Man City. Didn’t pay the cost of theirs
WHU . Again didn’t pay anything other thatn a token sum
Spurs . Fabulous stadium they seem to have got it right . Boo!
Arsenal. Some 20 years on seem to be getting back but something that passes many by is that from having cash reserves that outstripped debt just 10 years ago they are now close to £750 million in debt
Stadium revenue is such a small percentage of turnover compared to the TV revenue. Everton will see little direct financial benefit for a couple of decades IMO because of the cost of servicing the debt. I do believe a very good new stadium particularly in an iconic location like ours can have a marked effect on brand image leading to increased revenue that is difficult to quantify.

I think we will be the last new one for a long time now because of the rising costs. I suspect United, Newcastle and Chelsea will all redevelop. West Ham could be an interesting one to watch as that stadium is already falling apart and the landlord is nearing bankruptcy.

Anyway back on topic it is clear to me we have broke the rules but my issue is the magnitude of the punishment. A bit of common sense can see the failure was due to a combination of factors one of which being mismanagement but also including a new stadium, Covid, loss of sponsorship due to a war. During the 3 year periods we are being punished for we have player traded at a profit. We have made a concerted effort to address the wage bill but that can’t be done overnight. Players sign on 4 or 5 year deals and there is no market to move these players on. I can understand getting penalised the first time (although I dispute the size of the punishment) but then for the next reporting period where there is little we can do to address it. The rules don’t appear fit for purpose. Everton are not trying to cheat we are just trying to survive day to day
 

Ive only ever seen, that the result is the final result, and that's it. Nothing else we could do after it. If what you say was the case we could go on forever till it totally cleared lol

From the mail to be fair!

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Ive only ever seen, that the result is the final result, and that's it. Nothing else we could do after it. If what you say was the case we could go on forever till it totally cleared lol
There is a route to arbitration but unlikely that would be any more beneficial if the appeal is held , not impossible that someone could argue that the decision reached was perverse but as I say unlikely.
I doubt it will happen but now you have appealed the outcome there is a chance albeit slim that the 10 points is increased
One of cities delaying tactics was to argue that the PL aren’t competent to conduct in house arbitration that argument was at the High Court. They were defeated and them some
 
Ive seen a few Journos say if we are unhappy with the appeal decision we can take the appeal case to arbitration.
Given we pleaded guilty that could be tricky. I think we have to hope that common sense prevails and we get a reduced deduction, personally I would hope 6 points for the initial breach and 2 for the 2nd breach based on the fact we'd already have been punished for 2 out of the 3 years. They could then give Forest a 6 point deduction. Both of those penalties would be harsh, ours harsher than theirs due to 2 breaches, dissuade others from breaking the rules and still give both teams a chance of not being relegated due to off pitch activities.
 

Ive seen a few Journos say if we are unhappy with the appeal decision we can take the appeal case to arbitration.
Not sure about this, that would take additional months therefore we wouldnt know if we were relegated or not. What they should of done is once our appeal was submitted then the 10 points should be given back until the final outcome of his saga was sorted, then everyone not just us but the teams around us know exactly where we stand.
 
Not sure about this, that would take additional months therefore we wouldnt know if we were relegated or not. What they should of done is once our appeal was submitted then the 10 points should be given back until the final outcome of his saga was sorted, then everyone not just us but the teams around us know exactly where we stand.

Thats not our issue though really is it, we didnt set the timelines or process - im not even sure what the timeline around it is, also creates a headache for the PL, EFL and a scatter of clubs, wed have the least to loose, because if we got to that stage wed have likely lost everything anyway and if found guilty of the second charge we could do it twice.
 

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