3-4-3 MFN analysis

[neil999]

Genuinely interesting stuff on MNF how we are essentially playing this system, with Barry or McCarthy dropping in to start attacks

Carragher making some genuinely interesting points!

 

[Leeboy]

Genuinely interesting stuff on MNF how we are essentially playing this system, with Barry or McCarthy dropping in to start attacks

Carra making some genuinely interesting points!

"Carra" ???

Come on fella.

 

[Goat]

We play 2-2-4-1-1 when attacking and 4-2-3-1 when defending.

 

[neil999]

"Carra" ???

Come on fella.

Thanks, glad i bothered starting the the thread, edited now

 

[neil999]

We play 2-2-4-1-1 when attacking and 4-2-3-1 when defending.

Do you think this how is he has changed from Wigan? Or just better players?

 

[Goat]

Do you think this how is he has changed from Wigan? Or just better players?

Hes tactically brilliant, I doubt he has a "system", the players we have fit the system we currently play superbly, maybe in time he will make changes here there with different signings. But if its not broke you dont fix it.

 

[EFC David]

Do you think this how is he has changed from Wigan? Or just better players?

Wigan often played 3 at the back sort of in a...

Figueroa Caldwell some random lid.

But it may have been to compensate for Caldwell's severe lack of pace. They changed to a 4-3-3 when Caldwell got injured. I'd say we play a 4-2-3-1.

 

[dholliday]

Thanks, glad i bothered starting the the thread, edited now

yikes

 

[EFC NY]

Whatever he is doing, it seems to allow us to get men forward when attacking, but also to have coverage in the back when countered. In a lot of ways, all good systems/tactics need to funnel into this. Its really just about getting numbers up, and numbers back. We do this a lot more than under Moyes. A lot of it has to do with playing on the ground. Such allows the team to get up the pitch.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Lets be honest here, formations are all well and good, but if players are static they don't mean much. The most impressive thing against Arsenal imo was the movement off the ball.

When we were defending the closing down of Arsenal was as good as I've ever seen it from us. Their players are usually so good on the ball, so for us to fluster them is superb, and that kind of defence so high up the pitch will do the vast majority of teams in the league. As we saw with Arsenal though, the challenge is keeping it up for 90 minutes.

The movement when we have the ball is equally good. I mean Jags and Distin haven't become Beckenbaur over night, but they, and to a large degree Howard too, are playing from the back now because they have options to pass to. That is going on throughout the team and is resulting in the sexy play we see.

 

[neil999]

yikes

Is right

 

[neil999]

Neville making the point how McCarthy has had specific instructions was interesting

 

[billycopper]

Lets be honest here, formations are all well and good, but if players are static they don't mean much. The most impressive thing against Arsenal imo was the movement off the ball.

When we were defending the closing down of Arsenal was as good as I've ever seen it from us. Their players are usually so good on the ball, so for us to fluster them is superb, and that kind of defence so high up the pitch will do the vast majority of teams in the league. As we saw with Arsenal though, the challenge is keeping it up for 90 minutes.

The movement when we have the ball is equally good. I mean Jags and Distin haven't become Beckenbaur over night, but they, and to a large degree Howard too, are playing from the back now because they have options to pass to. That is going on throughout the team and is resulting in the sexy play we see.

In the first half hour whenever we lost the ball we quickly won it back again (just like Barca) and Arsenal couldn't string a run of passes together.

I don't think we've changed from 4-2-3-1 but we've realised that we don't need 9 players behind the ball to prevent a goal. As was noted on MOTD both Coleman and Oviedo are getting forward as much as they like and at the same time. At least Barry (if not McCarthy as well) stays back with the centre backs, so we're unlikely to get outnumbered on a counter attack unless the opposition really flood forward.

 

[nsno-chris]

His formation is total football, its that simple

 

[arminisgod]

It shows Martinez studies football (which we knew). What i found more shocking is the fact the coach of England didnt have a clue that Ukraine or Chile played that way. Embarrasing.

It also showed just how Fellaini really would have had no future here